From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Edward Casey" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: w32 mule status Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:14:05 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <10gqg8ba4ptgedd@corp.supernews.com> References: <10gjaub84s2os18@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091387818 21911 80.91.224.253 (1 Aug 2004 19:16:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 01 21:16:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BrLp9-0000Vx-00 for ; Sun, 01 Aug 2004 21:16:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BrLsV-0006Iv-LQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:20:15 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 120 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:124585 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:19919 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:19919 wrote in message news:uk6wm3pxn.fsf@jasonrumney.net... > "Edward Casey" writes: > > > Does any of you know where the info reported by Options> Mule > Show all > > of Mule status, is stored between emacs sessions? > > It's not stored, unless you explicitly save it to a file with C-x C-w. > > > I have a satisfactory setup on one machine that I am not able to > > emulate on another. I have compared all the w32-* variables and they > > are the same on both machines. The problem must have something to > > do with fontsets or extended character mappings. Help! > > You haven't described the problem, so I don't know how valid that > assumption is. I assume you wanted to compare the two files to see > what is different? Excuse my tardiness in replying but I have been trying to educate myself enough so that I can frame the problem clearly, but without success. The symptom is that out of 3 installations of emacnt 21.3.1 only one of them is able to display Latin-4 characters. All of them are using the same operating system win98, all have the same TTF fonts, all have the same version of the macronize character routine that you wrote for me. This routine is the only thing in my .emacs. Apparently I got one system working by sheer luck (that is by copy-pasting and then evaluating snippets of lisp culled from the web). If the state information is not being saved by emacs then it is being saved by Windows since I can cold boot each machine, set exactly the same options in the Mule environment, and get different results. Apparently fontsets are used in both X and ntemacs but can't be changed via S-mouse1 under the latter O.S. I ran an ediff on the outputs of Show all of mule status on two machines and the differences (all under fontset default and all the indented entries starting with [ ) were: [-outline-Courier New-normal-i-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-1] [-outline-Courier New-bold-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-1 ] [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-1] latin-iso8859-1 -*-iso8859-1 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-1] latin-iso8859-2 -*-iso8859-2 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-2] latin-iso8859-3 -*-iso8859-3 latin-iso8859-4 -*-iso8859-4 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-4] thai-tis620 -*-*-*-tis620-* [-outline-Tahoma-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-60-tis620*-*] greek-iso8859-7 -*-*-*-iso8859-7 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-7] arabic-iso8859-6 -*-*-*-iso8859-6 hebrew-iso8859-8 -*-*-*-iso8859-8 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-8] katakana-jisx0201 -*-*-*-jisx0208-sjis [-outline-Caslon-bold-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-80-jisx0208-sjis] latin-jisx0201 -*-*-*-jisx0208-sjis cyrillic-iso8859-5 -*-*-*-iso8859-5 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-5] latin-iso8859-9 -*-iso8859-9 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-9] latin-iso8859-15 -*-iso8859-15 latin-iso8859-14 -*-iso8859-14 japanese-jisx0208-1978 -*-*-*-jisx0208-sjis chinese-gb2312 -*-*-*-gb2312.1980-* [-outline-SimSun-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-70-gb2312*-*] japanese-jisx0208 -*-*-*-jisx0208-sjis [-outline-Caslon-bold-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-80-jisx0208-sjis] korean-ksc5601 -*-*-*-ksc5601.1989-* [-outline-Arial Unicode MS-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-p-60-ksc5601.1987*-*] japanese-jisx0212 -*-*-*-jisx0212-* chinese-cns11643-1 -*-*-*-cns11643.1992-1 chinese-cns11643-2 -*-*-*-cns11643.1992-2 japanese-jisx0213-1 -*-*-*-jisx0213.2000-1 chinese-big5-1 -*-*-*-big5-* [-outline-MingLiU-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-70-big5*-*] chinese-big5-2 -*-*-*-big5-* chinese-sisheng -*-sisheng_cwnn-* ipa -*-muleipa-* vietnamese-viscii-lower -*-viscii1.1-* vietnamese-viscii-upper -*-viscii1.1-* arabic-digit -*-*-*-mulearabic-0 arabic-1-column -*-*-*-mulearabic-1 ascii-right-to-left -*-iso8859-1 lao -*-*-*-mulelao-1 arabic-2-column -*-*-*-mulearabic-2 indian-is13194 -*-*-*-is13194-devanagari indian-1-column -*-*-*-muleindian-1 tibetan-1-column -*-*-*-muletibetan-1 mule-unicode-2500-33ff -*-iso10646-1 mule-unicode-e000-ffff -*-iso10646-1 mule-unicode-0100-24ff -*-iso10646-1 [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso10646-1] Is it possible that the "functions unify-8859-on-encoding-mode and unify-8859-on-decoding-mode to turn on conversion between UTF-8 and ISO-8859" (from your answer to the Cyrillic font problem) could be part of the solution? I assume that the entry: [-outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-80-iso8859-4] is the only one relevant to my immediate purposes. For instance, I certainly don't need Thai, but somehow I got it. Thanks, Ed