From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: edgar@openmail.cc Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 04:04:24 +0000 Message-ID: <10cd4c18f566faf0d8ca12cb7d16fae0@openmail.cc> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527074158 18890 195.159.176.226 (23 May 2018 11:15:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:15:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.4 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 23 13:15:54 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLRkH-0004pg-Sg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2018 13:15:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLRmO-00057U-PY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2018 07:18:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50138) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLRlC-00056C-9Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2018 07:16:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLRlA-0006hR-Rp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2018 07:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from onethreetwo.vfemail.net ([199.16.11.132]:36290 helo=vfemail.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLRlA-0006h9-K9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2018 07:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 78607 invoked by uid 89); 23 May 2018 11:16:45 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 23 May 2018 11:16:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 85138 invoked by uid 89); 23 May 2018 04:04:26 -0000 Original-Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 85136, pid: 85137, t: 0.0020s scanners:none Original-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp102-2.vfemail.net) (172.16.100.62) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 23 May 2018 04:04:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14035 invoked by uid 89); 23 May 2018 04:04:14 -0000 Original-Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 14027, pid: 14030, t: 0.0879s scanners:none Original-Received: from unknown (HELO www.vfemail.net) (ZWRnYXJAb3Blbm1haWwuY2M=@172.16.100.92) by 172.16.100.62 with ESMTPA; 23 May 2018 04:04:14 -0000 Original-Received: from 50j2ag8SdBS2dgruAGe8z+pcjTe/pcBMWCJ5lJ57/ik= (nZFXEyLO3jUXsQ1TILd6DjtwwMXDHvTt) by www.vfemail.net with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Tue, 22 May 2018 23:04:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Sender: edgar@openmail.cc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 199.16.11.132 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116836 Archived-At: > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 05:39:07 +0200 > From: Marcin Borkowski > To: edgar@openmail.cc > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org > Message-ID: <87zi0tvfs4.fsf@mbork.pl> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > And very untrue. THANKS! > It helps to develop a rational attitude to morality: you do not have > influence on everything, not even all the results of your actions, and > hence you do not bear responsibility for what you don't influence. (Of > course, that doesn't mean you don't bear any responsibility for what > you > _do_ influence.) Do you mean pragmatic or short-sighted by rational? I don't think that philosophers are necessarily irrational :) (to name a few). > For instance, you go to the bakery, buy the bread and pay the baker the > money. He then takes the money and goes to buy a gun to kill his wife. > Are you responsible? I don't think so (at least under normal > circumstances). Ah, but you showed a queen of diamonds to the baker, who was conditioned to kill as soon as he saw that! :P LoL. Agree. > (BTW, by "rational attitude to morality" I mean "attitude to morality > which takes morality seriously, and at the same time takes seriously > the > _reality_, i.e., not some nice-looking theory which does not work in > practice, nor any way to just say that morality doesn't matter. IOW, > "rational attitude to morality" is just "the Catholic attitude to > morality".) Yes. I think that this is closer to what I wanted to say earlier. > Again, too simplistic and not true. > FWIW, I work in a small software house which mostly uses open-source > software (which is not the same as free software, but has a big > intersection with it). We use Node.js, Vagrant, Ansible, PostgreSQL... > And our boss encourages us to "give back" to the larger community by > bug > reports, pull requests and open-sourcing small utilities we write. I think that it's worth a lot! Shut! if half the companies did that... > *Very true*. We have one person using MacOS. Every time there's some > problem, someone says "It's because it's Apple." Yes, it's a joke, but > it's symptomatic. We also run a small, jocular version of "editor war" > between Emacs (me) and Sublime Text (most of the other developers). > I like these type of running gags myself :) . > Just my 2 cents. Can I pay back? :) > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://mbork.pl Thanks Marcin! ------------------------------------------------- ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options!