From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?b?Suly9G1l?= Marant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:46:40 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1097063200.4163db2023888@imp2-q.free.fr> References: <1096291271.415813c757a26@imp6-q.free.fr> <20040927134714.GA20012@fencepost> <87hdphx91c.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87655wswkv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <871xgejdk7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <1096976423.41628827e4791@imp2-q.free.fr> <16739.53874.890882.703486@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097063234 12124 80.91.229.6 (6 Oct 2004 11:47:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 13:47:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CFAG8-0000J1-00 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:47:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFAMp-0001MN-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFAMh-0001Kq-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFAMh-0001Ke-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFAMh-0001Kb-B3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.228.0.176] (helo=postfix4-2.free.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CFAFl-0003E5-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: from imp2-q.free.fr (imp2-q.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C532215AB; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by imp2-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 38354550DE; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:46:40 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mure.msy.sagem.com (mure.msy.sagem.com [62.160.59.178]) by imp2-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:46:40 +0200 Original-To: Nick Roberts In-Reply-To: <16739.53874.890882.703486@farnswood.snap.net.nz> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 62.160.59.178 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27996 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27996 Quoting Nick Roberts : > > This thread has discussed help with stable Emacs releases. Much of the > frustration on this list seems to occur earlier in the development > process. Other projects, notably XEmacs, make beta releases for inclusi= on > with > unstable GNU/Linux distributions such as Debian's sid and the Mandrake > Cooker. It occurs to me that if Emacs did this too i.e made beta releas= es > from > the trunk, there would be more pairs of eyes and it would therefore mak= e for > a > faster stable release. It doesn't seem realistic or even reasonable to = expect > a handful of developers to do all the work. I don't know, maybe the pre= tests > do get included in such distributions but it seems to me that more leve= rage > could be obtained by always having a beta version (not in CVS) availabl= e. As far as I know, XEmacs people do both stable (say bugfix) releases and beta releases. -- J=E9r=F4me Marant