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From: Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Macro Expansion Inconsistency
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:03:08 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <107c0d7b-85e5-480a-a0a4-ebe4662cfad7@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16262.1418782759.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:49:21 AM UTC+5:30, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
> How to overcome it? Do you have any further recommendations on this macro?
> 
> P.S. It's my first somewhat serious macro in Emacs Lisp ever, so I'd love
> to learn more from pros until I do something dumb.

Macros are super powerful ... and super hard.

My recommendations?
1. [Just an imperative version of Joost suggestons]:
use macroexpand to debug them ie see (info "(elisp)expansion")
ie if form is a macro-call you can debug it with
first using (macroexpand form)
and if that looks sane then
(eval (macroexpand form))
However...

2. Lisp IS Eval... its evaling all the time so you rarely need to write 'eval'
Macros are double eval-layer So you doubly dont need eval



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-17  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.16228.1418763453.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-16 21:10 ` Macro Expansion Inconsistency Joost Kremers
2014-12-16 21:25   ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-16 21:46     ` John Mastro
2014-12-16 22:58       ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-16 23:14         ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-17  2:19           ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-17 10:04             ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-17 14:03               ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-17 14:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-17 14:34                   ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-17 14:21                 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-17 14:52                   ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-12-17 14:58                     ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-17 15:14                       ` Alexander Shukaev
     [not found]               ` <mailman.16290.1418825041.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-17 15:53                 ` Barry Margolin
2014-12-17 16:01                   ` Alexander Shukaev
     [not found]           ` <mailman.16262.1418782759.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-17  3:03             ` Rusi [this message]
2014-12-17  9:21               ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-16 23:20         ` John Mastro
     [not found]           ` <CAKu-7WzgoHH=zM_jxeVGMwzAne88nAoCUsLKQv9zUYo_amsjNg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-17  3:34             ` John Mastro
2014-12-17  3:41               ` John Mastro
2014-12-16 23:30   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-16 20:57 Alexander Shukaev

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