From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: on adding a function call to a s-exp Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:11:59 +0200 Message-ID: <106ef083-d489-a95a-cdee-f84e716f41b2@easy-emacs.de> References: <864libzkem.fsf@gmail.com> <86zi026stt.fsf@gmail.com> <86wov55r33.fsf@gmail.com> <87o9ggdolh.fsf@telefonica.net> <53126606-4d8c-46d3-aa9f-f27879885b02@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528873702 32754 195.159.176.226 (13 Jun 2018 07:08:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:08:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 13 09:08:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSztB-0008S0-M6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:08:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60333 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSzvH-0002mt-81 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 03:10:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSzun-0002mc-N5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 03:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSzuj-0004Za-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 03:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.24]:44733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSzuj-0004Y8-8d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 03:09:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.35] ([92.78.140.20]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJkO4-1fU6NH08OK-0018VC for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:09:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <53126606-4d8c-46d3-aa9f-f27879885b02@default> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:LpX50Zdxf1aq9aHdpsU6JS/eICSTZrywbih6qUmOoekx91GqS+a eiOUgA1KqnjuqzcjhxDQuWCz6TNZZRekzLH8WIU7EKKqm4qsDsDLWLgZu4tIER2gCVd4gav sqsCDG7Q7hZz4JIlwR3fvochbWjiQT69bOCvbAWB5rLf+84cpcTOwURJISD0+J5WDskzxMf rjHVvwlUKAbW/jiTSCEBQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gvZHgUEXTjA=:4WMYdjM6NOG2DZBzYDCd7q WVBUUqZkEuaCew21JvTFVm7E/Ge8yHyuT+UpjlZa1P3IN3txsBrx2e/9kc1SOqbNNcLh/u+H1 B73CUazzIdtzDpnaMzZoCsU4yzMk24+W6ODwqPzA9EP7cKRswWZU7l7wGLwZWBKdLeXlSgqYO 53SwRVrUkBWJlh+LJk4u2SDeQLsRint8/uSkhzASUQj4WzFvrxZRV6QecEFGMMaE4F8F0jGeU A+SuqtgXCIjb4MavLndkxaNAZPDR+pisMT860a7eIOEE7WK9Olm4MdlCgT6YVw5RdwklbdqvD 1O7tlf0w+uYm4tEDifoZIb3KY/qKB/Rd2IJXxZfRqyg9EiojY7dRD7+Oco/JAXvZAa9m6mPY2 dNiP/pe8QPTuucKaD6UQObZHo2fYchweegKz9LDonozY4guGhhUdX4SZBLET+xE5Tle6pSgKJ L67TpfXc0iPVc2AsIDEfugBPnU5aXVRgImHe5Kq6J624umBddCIDtWYj8DsAKZYBzLLCxjqev qpx3q/frr7gGqiq74nDhqquoI1NjBmBXa7eZQtLatcOO8q+iVonEKDpZChq96AL9a17On/MjN b7j6twMbDVVb5/b3Q2xFvFiRF6t3l0Ghla9BzGkKR0oJ2KmPYtUhwcEpBjY5Zwf138kfEQUGd t+pPu1HG+FRodmtkJd6i3qBAlbxRuBSgL35B9S8U1Bnfj4gftSMUmYxGrLD6QRj3v1d8tjClw C7IE3+YCnhGL3LdQ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.24 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117126 Archived-At: On 12.06.2018 18:17, Drew Adams wrote: >> electric-pair-mode offers a tiny fraction of the features of paredit. >> The later takes some time to learn, but in my experience the effort >> pays off if you work with lispy languages. > FWIW (he ducks), I work with a Lispy language, Elisp ;-). And I > don't use any "structured-editing" feature (crutch / ball-&-chain) > such as `paredit' or `electric-pair-mode'. I'm non-electric all > the way. > > I use only (1) the usual keys to indent, move over & around sexps, > transpose sexps, etc.; (2) `show-paren-mode', `blink-matching-paren'; > and (3) (yes!) sometimes a mouse (double-click sexp select, > copy-kill-yank). > > I've never had any problem with unbalanced parentheses, brackets, > braces, angle-brackets, double-quotes, etc. Really_not_ a big > deal, IMHO. > > To me, having an editor automatically insert a closing delimiter > each time I type an opening delimiter is a bother, not an aid. +1 Wrote a deliberately non-electric simple-paren WRT cases, where the closing delimiter should be inserted too: https://github.com/andreas-roehler/simple-paren