From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Anderson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: virtual space? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:07:53 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1066709273.4475.6.camel@syr-24-59-77-252.twcny.rr.com> References: <87y8vgbhdc.fsf@lucien.dreaming> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066709498 3124 80.91.224.253 (21 Oct 2003 04:11:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 21 06:11:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABnrr-0001eT-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:11:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ABnpD-0008IN-L4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABnot-0008EL-D8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:08:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ABnoN-000813-FH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.246.36.112] (helo=torre.pghoster.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ABnoN-0007zK-28 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:07:59 -0400 Original-Received: from syr-24-59-77-252.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-59-77-252.twcny.rr.com [24.59.77.252]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by torre.pghoster.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9L480I21144; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:08:00 -0500 Original-To: Michael Durland In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13399 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13399 You know it's interesting; virtual space as I think I understand it would probably break a lot of macros people like me have collected. (Granted it could be thrown in its own mode -- thus reducing the likelihood of breakage). So I suppose this "problem" could be construed as a feature. But even so, just to run a quick check I opened up vi. Vi did not use virtual space. Neither does my word processor. So I'm trying to figure out how it could possibly be so ubiquitous. I suppose if you really wanted to you could hire a poor unemployed programmer to create these things for you, and then share it with the community. If you really want it that bad. But perhaps this just shows that not all tools are useful for everyone. Some people love vi, and hate emacs. (Although they will forever burn in hell for straying from the path of the One True Editor). That's fine. It's preference. Use the editor that suits you. If you want an IDE with a nice GUI, emacs may not be for you. If you enjoy all the features many of us do, and don't really care about GUIs, Emacs may be for you. Dan