From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephan Stahl" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: show_help_echo truncates unconditionally Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:44:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1058.212.114.230.60.1112111097.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> References: <20836.217.194.34.123.1112077505.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> <87wtrq607j.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112111199 8368 80.91.229.2 (29 Mar 2005 15:46:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:46:37 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGIuH-0006os-CF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:45:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGJAb-00020d-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:02:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGJAL-0001ym-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:02:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGJAI-0001wM-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGJAH-0001va-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:02:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.175.24.27] (helo=ilsa.franken.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DGItm-0004CT-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:44:59 -0500 Original-Received: from wwws.franken.de (mail-n.franken.de [193.175.24.27]) by ilsa.franken.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 37B30245D0; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:44:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 212.114.230.60 (SquirrelMail authenticated user eos) by wwws.franken.de with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:44:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87wtrq607j.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35314 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35314 Hi Stefan. Stefan Monnier said: > I'd rather find a way to get the best of both worlds without > a config variable. > E.g. using scrolling in the single-line minibuffer, or by only truncating > for the first few seconds and then expanding the echo area if you stay on > the same help-echo spot long enough. I like (setq show-help-function nil) because it shows the info instantaneously. So waiting a few seconds would reduce this feature just like tooltips. Besides is it always possible to know for how long one requests the help echo? E.G. Does C-h . use show-help-message? Stephan -- Stephan Stahl