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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: justin@burkett.cc, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com,
	jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:31:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1056a72d-af5c-487e-be33-67522fe47d17@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h6ikzc38.fsf@gnu.org>

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On 07/02/2024 14:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 01:12:37 +0200
>> Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
>>   Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>, Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
>>
>> How about this?
>>
>> Since echo-keystrokes is 1 second by default, which defines a
>> significant timeout already, I think this can work without a yet another
>> timer.
> 
> LGTM, but it should be a defcustom.

All right, see the attached.

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diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index ee7462cb2aa..d4b8bf21f94 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -307,6 +307,9 @@ between the auto save file and the current file.
 ** 'ffap-lax-url' now defaults to nil.
 Previously, it was set to t but this broke remote file name detection.
 
+** Unfinished commands' echo now ends with a suggestion to use Help
+Customize 'echo-keystrokes-help' to nil to hide it.
+
 \f
 * Editing Changes in Emacs 30.1
 
diff --git a/lisp/cus-start.el b/lisp/cus-start.el
index 7e0b64e9067..3fe62c8d0da 100644
--- a/lisp/cus-start.el
+++ b/lisp/cus-start.el
@@ -371,6 +371,7 @@ minibuffer-prompt-properties--setter
 	     (auto-save-timeout auto-save (choice (const :tag "off" nil)
 						  (integer :format "%v")))
 	     (echo-keystrokes minibuffer number)
+             (echo-keystrokes-help minibuffer boolean "30.1")
 	     (polling-period keyboard float)
 	     (double-click-time mouse (restricted-sexp
 				       :match-alternatives (integerp 'nil 't)))
diff --git a/src/keyboard.c b/src/keyboard.c
index 1f7253a7da1..6d3db5ab615 100644
--- a/src/keyboard.c
+++ b/src/keyboard.c
@@ -589,6 +589,15 @@ echo_dash (void)
   AUTO_STRING (dash, "-");
   kset_echo_string (current_kboard,
 		    concat2 (KVAR (current_kboard, echo_string), dash));
+
+  if (echo_keystrokes_help)
+    {
+      AUTO_STRING (help, " (\\`C-h' for help)");
+      kset_echo_string (current_kboard,
+			concat2 (KVAR (current_kboard, echo_string),
+				 calln (Qsubstitute_command_keys, help)));
+    }
+
   echo_now ();
 }
 
@@ -13228,6 +13237,10 @@ syms_of_keyboard (void)
 If the value is zero, don't echo at all.  */);
   Vecho_keystrokes = make_fixnum (1);
 
+  DEFVAR_BOOL ("echo-keystrokes-help", echo_keystrokes_help,
+	       doc: /* Non-nil means append small help text to the unfinished commands' echo. */);
+  echo_keystrokes_help = true;
+
   DEFVAR_LISP ("polling-period", Vpolling_period,
 	      doc: /* Interval between polling for input during Lisp execution.
 The reason for polling is to make C-g work to stop a running program.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-31 23:23 discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01  2:45 ` Po Lu
2024-02-03 13:40   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-04 22:03     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05  7:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 15:38         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 18:47           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 19:17             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 19:33               ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-05 23:05                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-06  2:49                   ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-06 23:12                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 12:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 18:31                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2024-02-07 19:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 19:51                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08  1:46                           ` Visuwesh
2024-02-08  6:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 12:18                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:36                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:43                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:12                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  2:17                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  2:39                                             ` Po Lu
2024-02-11 12:30                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  6:49                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 12:26                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 15:00                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 20:36                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:41                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:51                                   ` Rebinding Fn [Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs] Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:04                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:25                           ` discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Po Lu
2024-02-08 13:27                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-01  7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-01 21:16   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-02  6:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02  7:00       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02  7:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 15:25           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-02 15:53             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 16:04             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 11:46             ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:39           ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 12:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 14:07               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 15:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-04 22:18                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-05 12:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 11:30       ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:36       ` Moving which-key ELPA package into core - " Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 16:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 22:12           ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 23:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01 21:17   ` orzodk
2024-02-01 22:24     ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 23:49       ` orzodk
2024-02-02  6:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 16:00   ` Howard Melman
2024-02-02 19:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 19:32       ` tomas
2024-02-02 20:16         ` Howard Melman
2024-02-03  7:25           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03  8:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 16:58             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-04 22:25               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 22:55                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05  3:40                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 23:47                 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-05  1:46                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05  3:52               ` Divya Ranjan
2024-02-05 15:04                 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-04 18:34             ` Howard Melman

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