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[80.236.218.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u127sm23850465wme.8.2020.05.10.13.48.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 13:48:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: fr Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::343; envelope-from=colinetnathan98@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x343.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 May 2020 20:41:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249728 Archived-At: > There are already such videos. Check out emacs rocks on YT. > https://www.youtube.com/user/emacsrocks > > Those are even linked to on Emacs webpage, ir you open emacs.org and > scroll down, you will find the links. I don't think any brand new user will bother watching something like "episode 15 restclient-mode". I think they need "How Emacs makes you efficient" or "Emacs makes everything easier" on emacs.org. > But surely Emacs could have used more of such short feature showing-off > videos/tutorials. Maybe Emacs doesn't need more of them but only a good one IMHO. Regards, Nathan On 2020-05-08 12:39, Arthur Miller wrote: > Nathan Colinet writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I read on the mailing list that you're looking for a way to make Emacs popular >> again. I thought I could share my idea. >> >> I started using emacs a year ago and when I started everything was really >> confusing, what is a frame, what is a buffer, how to install packages, what are >> major and minor modes, etc.. I wanted to give up but then I saw a 1 hour talk >> about Emacs that shows how powerful it is. Then I was hooked. Unfortunately the >> sound was no good at all and it was way too long. I think it could be really >> benefic for emacs to have a 5-10 minutes video that would present Emacs not as >> an old obscure porgram but as an amazing fresh looking tool that drastically >> improves efficiency. I think people nowadays need an out-of-the-box experience, >> that's why promoting doom-emacs or spacemacs might be better than the default >> Emacs. >> >> I think if the video is well realised it could really be a huge win. >> >> Stay safe and well, >> >> Nathan Colinet > There are already such videos. Check out emacs rocks on YT. > https://www.youtube.com/user/emacsrocks > > Those are even linked to on Emacs webpage, ir you open emacs.org and > scroll down, you will find the links. > > But surely Emacs could have used more of such short feature showing-off > videos/tutorials.