From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Owen Taylor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: 09 Apr 2003 10:46:44 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1049899604.23814.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <84of3p2m44.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304021352.h32DqLO11793@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <1049729721.4045.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049813819.27194.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049899815 18667 80.91.224.249 (9 Apr 2003 14:50:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 16:50:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193Gt9-0004mU-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:49:23 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 193Gxf-0003Wy-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:54:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Gt3-0001WJ-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:49:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Gsg-0001Ul-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:48:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Gsf-0001UN-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:48:53 -0400 Original-Received: from nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com ([66.187.233.200] helo=lacrosse.corp.redhat.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193GsL-0001Eo-00; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from landau.devel.redhat.com (landau.devel.redhat.com [172.16.56.103])h39EmQu16451; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:48:26 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-0) Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net Original-cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13078 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13078 On Tue, 2003-04-08 at 21:58, Richard Stallman wrote: > The problem I see with a minimum size is that the technique of > shrinking the thumb to represent overscrolling won't work if the > scrollbar thumb is already at its minimum size. > > That depends on how it is implemented. The minimum size should apply > to the "whole thumb", which includes the part that is virtually beyond > the end of the trough. My opinion about a scrollbar where by user action or programmatic action, the scrollbar may be scrolled so that there is nothing left to click on, is: if you want such a scrollbar, you can write it yourself. GtkScrollbar will not do that. Regards, Owen