all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: skeleton.el _ versus @
Date: 02 Apr 2003 16:16:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1049328965.66437.41.camel@zircon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200304020133.h321XTkK023712@rum.cs.yale.edu>

On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 17:33, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> It was introduced by yours truly.  The reasoning behind it was
> that editing generally takes place left-to-right, so point
> should most naturally end up at the first interesting position.
> Also it allowed to distinguish between where point should go
> and where the region should go.

Aha!

This makes things *much* clearer to me.  You are defending your
*private* change to skeleton.el.  It is quite clear to me that
skeleton.el, prior to your *private* change, had a clear, consistent and
well-designed interface.

Somehow, you got your change accepted into the core, radically changing
the meaning of @ just because you wanted to be able to edit "left to
right".

I believe that this change to skeleton was sneaked in under the radar,
changing code which previously worked.  It is only because I cared to
probe why the default skeletons used by mmm-mode did not work, in spite
of the fact that the author is known by me to be very concientious and
would not have put these skeletons out without verifying that they
worked.

So, I can give you pointers to the mmm-mode cvs sources to show you how
the skeletons there have been unchanged since before your incompatible
change was introduced.  Therefore, your change broke existing code.  I
am sorry that I was not involved in mmm-mode when you did this, or I
would have screamed bloody murder then.

Please undo this incompatible change in skeleton.el.

Thank you.

/Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-03  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-24 19:27 [joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us: skeleton.el _ versus @] Richard Stallman
2003-03-24 20:05 ` skeleton.el _ versus @ Stefan Monnier
2003-03-25  1:00   ` Joe Kelsey
2003-03-30 18:51     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-03-31 17:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-01  1:58       ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-01  7:25         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-02  0:08       ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02  0:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-02  1:03           ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02  1:17             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-04-02  1:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-03  0:16               ` Joe Kelsey [this message]
2003-04-03  0:28                 ` Miles Bader
2003-04-03  6:45             ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2003-04-09 16:26               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-10  0:00                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-10 22:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-11  0:25                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-11 23:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-11 23:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-12  0:11                           ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-12  8:51                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-13 11:23                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-13 16:41                             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-13 18:54                               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-13 19:11                             ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-20 22:50                             ` skeleton.el _ versus @, a new patch Joe Kelsey
2003-04-21 13:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-22  0:32                                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-22 13:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-23  0:27                                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-22  0:45                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-22  1:30                                 ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-24  1:50                                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-24 15:59                                     ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-26  2:31                                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-28 21:51                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 19:29                                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-18  1:31                                             ` Joe Kelsey
2003-04-02 19:26         ` skeleton.el _ versus @ Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-23 23:55 Joe Kelsey

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1049328965.66437.41.camel@zircon \
    --to=joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.