From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Daniel R. Anderson" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Customization - newbie's question Date: 31 Mar 2003 10:32:18 +0000 Organization: www.mathjunkies.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <1049106738.32151.8.camel@ny-chicagost2d-72.buf.adelphia.net> References: <6161BC57-6360-11D7-B35A-000393CFE6FA@crm-114.net> Reply-To: dan@mathjunkies.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049106819 8418 80.91.224.249 (31 Mar 2003 10:33:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 31 12:33:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18zwbi-0002BR-00 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:33:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zwbo-00035B-00 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 05:33:44 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zwbO-0002fT-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 05:33:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zwb0-00027r-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 05:32:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.246.36.112] (helo=torre.pghoster.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zwan-0001Xo-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 05:32:41 -0500 Original-Received: from ny-chicagost2d-72.buf.adelphia.net (ny-chicagost2d-72.buf.adelphia.net [24.49.119.72]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by torre.pghoster.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2VAWZM06909; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 04:32:35 -0600 Original-To: Adam In-Reply-To: <6161BC57-6360-11D7-B35A-000393CFE6FA@crm-114.net> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2-3mdk X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by torre.pghoster.com id h2VAWZM06909 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8017 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8017 > > 1) Every book ever written about technology is outdated before it ge= ts > > off the press >=20 > True but this book is fairly outdated as it uses Emacs 19 which is two=20 > major versions behind the curve. Have you seen the book? What is it that would go outdated? Are you trying to tell me C-x C-f doesn't open files anymore? Or that when I press C-v I don't just down the buffer a screen? Run over the changelogs. You=B4ll see that there is not a whole lot that has changed for the beginning user. Grab a book on C written 10 years ago and you won=B4t see radical syntax changes. Programs might be optimized for hardware which today can be gotten for free, but you could probably type in examples (so long as they use standard libraries) into a modern compiler and they would work. If needs be the old version 19 can be gotten off the =B4net and whoever was inquiring about help learning emacs can upgrade when he or she is ready. -Dan