From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stirling Olson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: TAB character Date: 20 Nov 2002 14:03:22 -0500 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1037819002.21788.69.camel@seo.foraker.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037819052 23439 80.91.224.249 (20 Nov 2002 19:04:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Ea8w-00065s-00 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:04:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Ea98-0006H3-00; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:04:22 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Ea8G-0005GD-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Ea8B-0005Bi-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.74.37.228] (helo=foraker.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Ea8B-0005Be-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.188.192.162] (HELO seo_office.foraker.com) by foraker.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP-TLS id 161520 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:22 -0500 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3809 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3809 How can I make the TAB key just enter a TAB character and never have that TAB character turn into spaces? While editing .java files and other files hitting the TAB key seems to follow some indenting conventions that I don't understand and don't prefer. It often enters spaces and sometimes won't even let me enter a further tab. I just want to have a tab character entered in the buffer when I hit TAB and when I backspace or delete a tab in the buffer I don't want it to turn into spaces. Right now indent-tabs-mode is t but that still doesn't seem to help matters. Right now I can't even use the editor because I can't figure out how to outwit this thing so I can have tabs where I want. I'm happy to read documentation but I can't seem to find the right information and don't really want to read 10 whole books just to figure out how to enter a tab in my document so I can determine whether this editor is worth learning... Thanks in advance for any and all help. Best Regards, Stirling