From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: don't show the $-bar that indicates text before and/or after the window view, horizontally Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1034c514-3bf7-4fc5-9bbc-4e69c8ac8632@default> References: <<87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se>> <<8338r3x2ta.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374695819 9699 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2013 19:56:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:56:59 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 24 21:56:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V25B8-0002YS-Fn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:56:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45595 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V25B8-0000EQ-5g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:56:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V25Aw-0000EE-TK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V25Av-0002dd-MH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:56:42 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:49253) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V25At-0002cv-HI; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6OJubPE000845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:56:38 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OJua1o020850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:56:37 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OJuaXL023233; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:56:36 GMT In-Reply-To: <<8338r3x2ta.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92370 Archived-At: > > doesn't seem to do anything, neither in X or the tty. > > (set-fringe-mode '(0 . 0)) ... > (At this point, I'd suggest to invest some time in reading the > manuals, because messing with such advanced stuff is not recommended > if you don't even know... +1, and even if one does know... I'd suggest also learning to use Customize, if you haven't already. Assuming that you want to set up fringes in general (i.e., your preferred default fringe settings), just `M-x customize-option fringe-mode'. You have the choice among: * Default * No fringes * Right only * Left only * Half width * Minimal * Specific width * Different left/right sizes And the doc is right there too, to explain things. Customize is pretty easy to use, and it keeps its settings separate from your own Lisp (e.g., ~/.emacs) settings if you use option `custom-file' (which you should, IMHO). And - especially - it performs type-checking and takes care of initialization, automatic updating in special cases, and possibly complex interactions with other functions, modes, options, internal variables, etc. IOW, let Emacs do the busy work for you. (I notice now, BTW, that (emacs) `Fringes' does not mention user option `fringe-mode'. I've filed a doc bug (#14946) for that.