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From: Colin Walters <walters@debian.org>
Subject: Re: kill ring menu
Date: 29 Apr 2002 01:37:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1020058652.27106.353.camel@space-ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871yczksra.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp>

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 00:56, Miles Bader wrote:
> Colin Walters <walters@debian.org> writes:
> > Thanks for your comments.  I have incorporated the changes (including
> > renaming it back to `browse-kill-ring') in the latest patch.
> 
> Please don't append `-face' to the name of the face, though -- faces
> have a separate namespace, so it's quite redundant (it's like appending
> `-variable' to the name of all your variables); note that none of emacs'
> `primitive' faces (those in faces.el) use the `-face' suffix.

Fixed, thanks.  I take it with these comments that you are satisfied
with the rest of the patch?

> [...] Since in general one can't be sure which
> people are on a mailing list or not, it's best to reply to all addresses
> by default [...]

I don't really wish to debate this in depth, since I sense this has the
potential to develop into a long thread, where I will certainly be CC'd
:) ...so this will be the last thing I'll say about it on this list.

In Debian culture (where I mainly come from), the general opinion on the
issue is against it.  The CC is another separate identical copy of the
message, which goes straight to my inbox.  When CC'ing, you are making
an assumption that I filter my mail into separate mailboxes, and that I
don't read those lists constantly.

If that isn't true, then I have to spend time deleting lots of duplicate
messages.  Or I have to set up a complex email filtering system, which
also takes my time and is difficult to manage.

A more reasonable assumption to make is that someone who posts to a list
is subscribed to it.  Almost all of us who participate in regular
discussion are subscribed, I'm sure.  If someone posts who *isn't*
subscribed, then the onus is on *them* to say "Please CC me".  That way
everyone else doesn't suffer just because a few lazy people occasionally
post to the list without being subscribed outside.

From what I see GNU culture generally is in support of CC'ing.  If I
can't change this, then I just hope that a polite request at the top of
my messages will at least prevent me personally from being CC'd.  And
again, it's just a request; nobody has to listen to it.  But doing so
will make my life easier.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-29  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-28 19:41 kill ring menu Colin Walters
2002-04-28 20:06 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-29  5:05   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-29 18:40     ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-28 22:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-28 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-28 23:42   ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  4:34   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-30  4:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-29  3:35 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  4:37   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-29  4:56     ` Miles Bader
2002-04-29  5:37       ` Colin Walters [this message]
2002-04-29  7:09         ` Miles Bader
2002-04-30  5:18           ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-30 10:18             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-29  9:22         ` CC (was: Re: kill ring menu) Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-29 15:11           ` Benjamin Rutt
2002-04-29 15:31             ` Miles Bader
2002-04-30  5:19             ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-30 10:14           ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-30 11:08             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-29 10:10         ` Addressing email (was: " Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-29 13:13         ` kill ring menu Stefan Monnier
2002-04-29 18:40   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <200204290505.g3T55t006146@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]   ` <1020059236.31789.358.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]     ` <200204300519.g3U5Js306727@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]       ` <1020212569.27106.2246.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]         ` <200205011926.g41JQBC07690@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]           ` <1020284783.27106.3417.camel@space-ghost>
2002-05-03 18:25             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-03 18:46               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03 19:05               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03 20:20                 ` Colin Walters
2002-05-04  1:34                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-04  3:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04  3:49                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-05  5:34                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04  6:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <1020320725.27616.54.camel@space-ghost>
     [not found]         ` <200205031825.g43IPuD00768@aztec.santafe.edu>
     [not found]           ` <1020502030.5286.25.camel@space-ghost>
2002-05-05 17:46             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  5:15               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-06  6:39                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-06 22:55                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  1:35                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-07  3:55                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  4:18                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-07 20:07                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07 20:38                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  0:20                             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  6:05                               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  6:50                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  7:36                                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  7:48                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  8:57                                     ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08 13:14                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-09  4:29                                         ` Colin Walters
2002-05-09 10:08                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-09  2:45                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-09  4:28                               ` Colin Walters
2002-05-10  0:30                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16 18:47                                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 19:12                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:20                                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 19:36                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:45                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 19:54                                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 20:12                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 20:17                                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 20:23                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-16 21:47                                           ` Colin Walters
2002-05-16 21:54                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 21:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 19:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07 19:22                     ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-09 20:09                       ` Colin Walters
2002-05-11  6:30                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-13 22:17                         ` Colin Walters
2002-05-14  8:36                           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-14 12:49                           ` Emacs 21.4 (was: kill ring menu) Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-15  7:01                           ` kill ring menu Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  6:46                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-05-06 22:46                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08 10:06                     ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-05-08 10:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-06 19:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  4:03                   ` Colin Walters
2002-05-07  5:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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