From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Walters Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about copy-region-as-kill Date: 07 Apr 2002 00:43:36 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1018158216.4269.17.camel@space-ghost> References: <87ofh09xjq.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <200204050602.g3562Dl18586@aztec.santafe.edu> <87bscx7rlf.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <200204061732.g36HWSb19584@aztec.santafe.edu> <87k7rkmuk0.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <87zo0gbfb2.fsf@emacswiki.org> <1018138376.27236.49.camel@space-ghost> <87bscwe36t.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <1018154466.4269.11.camel@space-ghost> <87k7rkcdf7.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018158712 11341 127.0.0.1 (7 Apr 2002 05:51:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 05:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16u5ah-0002wo-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 07:51:51 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16u5oU-0004KC-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 08:06:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16u5Zw-0007SM-00; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:51:04 -0500 Original-Received: from monk.debian.net ([216.185.54.61] helo=monk.verbum.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16u5Yx-0007P7-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from space-ghost.verbum.private (freedom.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.60.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "space-ghost.verbum.org", Issuer "monk.verbum.org" (verified OK)) by monk.verbum.org (Postfix (Debian/GNU)) with ESMTP id 1ABFB740009E for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:50:03 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by space-ghost.verbum.private (Postfix (Debian/GNU), from userid 1000) id 4D56B82F9B7; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:43:37 -0500 (EST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87k7rkcdf7.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2443 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2443 On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 23:58, Miles Bader wrote: > Colin Walters writes: > > That's what I thought at first, too...but I've personally *never* > > encountered a situation in which I've wanted to use the overlay API. > > What can I say? I have encountered many such situations. I admit I think that some must exist, or else this issue would have come up a long time ago. Anyways, this is mainly orthogonal to my original point, which is that I've very often wanted buffer-specific text properties. And if those exist, I imagine there is a situation in which someone would want to manipulate (non buffer-specific) text properties as separate objects, like overlays. I guess all I can do is assert that an XEmacs-style extent mechanism would make a lot more sense to me, personally. I explained the reasons behind my frustration with text properties and overlays with respect to ibuffer in that discussion with Richard; if he gives me permission to put it up somewhere, then maybe you could see where I'm coming from.