From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default for the envelope From in smtpmail.el Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: <0xwr16rzz5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344647720 23982 80.91.229.3 (11 Aug 2012 01:15:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 11 03:15:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T00IQ-0001cR-2s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:15:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35953 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T00IP-000783-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T00IM-00077y-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T00IK-00033N-87 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T00IK-00033J-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T00II-0008GR-Db; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:15:10 -0400 X-Spook: CBNRC genetic smuggle TELINT munitions LABLINK Ortega X-Ran: O:F>(-Rj4v6f\)^"J>-JFW}*bjH*Gpo3/--O.MH>X#\&>)hIl2-NfFR:m+IN'tsfs[Y;&P X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2011 17:16:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152427 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Currently, the default envelope from address (aka. SMTP "MAIL FROM") in > smtpmail is `user-mail-address'. The user can change this by changing > some rather confusing variables called `mail-specify-envelope-from' and > `mail-envelope-from'. > > I wonder whether a more sensible default here would be to use the From: > address in the buffer being sent. Some MTAs filter on the MAIL FROM, > and only allow access based on a filter, and people adjust their From: > headers to reflect that. This was an eminently sensible suggestion from July last year. Please could it be now be implemented. The current default is dumb and can lead to confusing failure modes ("553 From: address not verified").