From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisation Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:11:46 +0000 Message-ID: <0geQIvut8pm1-9SAaI008CzSdp1E-IUa3kruCxKwrH66Gg92tJgKScNSDWJwuueXmV78tcULC_N_c9LG5MADKiD3_AjkXcNQTMQ6soTqIlc=@proton.me> References: <1M2WN8RSJh3rnvRYoGKu2FOYFosKFsYxRLesaZKzA6dmdXLvGsxZNON-D3zRMgv-FkPqF2qFTurWu3u2ruoKK1QSzHheoICPo2MIi7VR6lc=@proton.me> Reply-To: uzibalqa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21788"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: uzibalqa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 23:12:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1Q-0005Pn-Pr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 23:12:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1P-0001kG-O0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1G-0001k5-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59471) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1G-0001Zk-B1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1G-0007an-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 58459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58459.166560912029177 (code B ref 58459); Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2022 21:12:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1E-0007aX-Cs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:12:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]:38229) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oij1C-0007aK-K2 for 58459@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:11:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1665609112; x=1665868312; bh=BNf1lK7oKLQwcTo9yDjVo745nQ5hZFyTv8AXS7b4FQg=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=gAC3hcLt2io2EIe5qJLZln9Ndcp8M/p8z4Do0USjDgmzyZNO6i2QzoFAryEZ9lqDG BIk0Bq5JbL8CM6AD/gC7PnMMd3tsaMLlNNTiCeuz4dhE1DO0TkmiK+AgzilSwGhNCP ZUCeK8WiDLIWh1y2eiAmaS0rJTqovLpTDTrfYI5TPDuXifRYGBEck1XNbHJY0kRe51 OfVqpOH2VFIGnYkO7PnLQKlUT4fwTGDZf8Qz/P+r796MFBegQovj5PX5nyd5vgv9ah uD95H9czauWSC3PsA6EB4uMBiwNpFpMsQFvh3IL0P4DmZlxyP9mB9Y4u1wDL9aku5p xK9jJfGKwHbNQ== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245251 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Wednesday, October 12th, 2022 at 5:30 PM, uzibalqa via "Bug reports for = GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wr= ote: > ------- Original Message ------- > On Wednesday, October 12th, 2022 at 4:23 PM, Stefan Kangas stefankangas@g= mail.com wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > > uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me writes: > >=20 > > > > Why is emacs not taking care of these EMACS generated X-Resources? > >=20 > > I don't think Emacs would set these resources. My guess it's specific > > to your setup, or your GNU/Linux distribution or something. > >=20 > > > > You may claim it is not a bug, but what would be the usefelness whe= n > > > > user wants a fresh restart but has to go through all this torture > > > > to find out what is going on. It is definitely not for the novice > > > > to fix this. > >=20 > > It's a general feature on X that we happen to support. It's not a bug. > >=20 > > > How can one unset those resources? > >=20 > > If you read `man xrdb', you will find: > >=20 > > xrdb -remove >=20 >=20 > Fine, let me agree it is not a bug. Because emacs supports some general f= eatures on X, > and we know that this problem might occur, could emacs also support the c= learance of > EMACS X-Resources. Particularly for those not technically aware, it will = solve them a > whole lot of problems. I an using Trisquel 9. I have not personally added the Emacs X-Resourses. = I do not even have the files "~/.Xresources" or "~/.Xdefaults". "xrdb -remove" gets rid of th= e entire RESOURCE=20 string, ignoring any input or arguments. I am continually amazed how unreactive emacs maintainers can be to users. = Either shaming them, make them look stupid, but then months or years later, it gets recognised t= hey were right all along. =20