From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Moreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: page-at-a-time output for M-x shell Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <0eab476b-cd5f-444d-b2af-d82ac076e73b@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> References: <30a09a22-cd05-44b6-9b82-8a7e6c1796d5@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <7bf1883b-3184-487c-a5a4-675f3e117342@l2g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <85269090-af0d-43fa-bd49-da265cbac558@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <3c2b0d8c-2d31-45f0-8eda-1af2320d8cf5@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247480322 2270 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2009 10:18:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:18:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 13 12:18:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQIcE-0006Fy-2l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:18:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQIcD-0007se-D2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:18:33 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93.2.234.241 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247477890 15674 127.0.0.1 (13 Jul 2009 09:38:10 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com; posting-host=93.2.234.241; posting-account=ekTE0goAAADiVCThPmo4ph0C5bTUhQOx User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0.10, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 grimoire.wyplay.int:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE14) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170818 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66016 Archived-At: On Jul 13, 11:04=A0am, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 13.07.2009 um 10:03 schrieb Francis Moreau: > > > I never claim to have a splendid idea. I just found weird that this is > > not offered by M-x shell, whereas it is by M-x term... > > The one offers an environment to run a shell interpreter =A0 > interactively in it, OK, so what am I supposed to run in this shell interpreter ? I can understand that I can't start mutt or any other appli that needs all term environment in M-x shell, but the feature I'm asking is not specific to term emulation, it's just a goodies to make life easier when reading the _text_ output of any commands I start from this shell interpreter. One other thing: why 'M-x term' proposes the 'page-at-a-time' output feature whereas it supports the " | less" thing ? maybe because it's just convenient enough to make it the default of all commands...