From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:05:53 +0300 Message-ID: <0da740c7-e2bf-41d4-a56c-aebfe49a7d35@gutov.dev> References: <8734ot6y38.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30741"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Stefan Kangas , Stefan Monnier , Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 01 21:06:32 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMMC-0007nv-4T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:06:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMLn-0005gU-9W; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMLj-0005ZD-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.149]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMLe-0002J1-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailfout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037F3138023C; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:05:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gutov.dev; h=cc :cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1719860756; x=1719947156; bh=vfJf48nODzGK08WpgvjBr/crUJTs4ks9sAok4gKW7fg=; b= cCDeUvJ49f6g8wuy6BBFKV/dbOioxVSNB/OMKMSDWTM+oPkjP2W8QBJXO6p0AYoL he2n+9qahA0jxeXXImvTBbsDTAUm4q40NHbEJbLjrEjmqfG/YdzxdZ6gxd7YN8Bb 8Kfrhl3vabgZNUAuM5h0InYCnlVYVolDa3g9gItVV/5LpFaQJ1B7jJBXglOCNJLe ADZ8dXJHIDNJ+fCo8eUQTR/iHqFlWYZDBG6+mia5ofKId+OgQvNVDUFFkdrRYRcx ZkeCrr5Ame9P24BqWVDzVCl1HdGWnbdmcLwC0MxsdXI3W8g5Narny1dbkzV6/Sf2 Q3eXyB5AxBy/b46j9ptMHA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1719860756; x= 1719947156; bh=vfJf48nODzGK08WpgvjBr/crUJTs4ks9sAok4gKW7fg=; b=Z wsLGjai+i1ol45uZkNrFEgVir/kZk3eW874lk3fPAZmm5Uc6zrxDQfchUREm54vY WspUVzSUIZE2wAM0BMSauV55dSyDlEtq8X/wD7F1C/1XeJrsZ46KubzecXuLwKMo Z/oQF333WdmXWvkjFwCDYX0sUpnS7+gBNkjimDOCHk9xr51rT1FnKE+5qtM9NxVv w1o46s1/jkIFBVkpo1e9Pv+tN3enEsjvUhYwA17qi/3Atf+WNRe2TBr//CiMcYWN 4O+c15XRE1FYxxoj3KC0NWC9h3PtL8jGbMZp6Uopi94+NNsx/lvVPZzAt2/QJ3g/ k3wpeLtYEcuBgyE+6uR6g== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrudefgddufedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvvehfhfgjtgfgsehtjeertddtvdejnecuhfhrohhmpeffmhhi thhrhicuifhuthhovhcuoegumhhithhrhiesghhuthhovhdruggvvheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepteduleejgeehtefgheegjeekueehvdevieekueeftddvtdevfefhvdevgedu jeehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepug hmihhtrhihsehguhhtohhvrdguvghv X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0e71465a:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <8734ot6y38.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=103.168.172.149; envelope-from=dmitry@gutov.dev; helo=fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321060 Archived-At: On 01/07/2024 16:28, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> People screaming "backward compatibility" for each and every reason > ^^^^^^ >> can indeed be a problem. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Is this what it comes down to? That certain people, by implication, > Emacs users, are potentially problems? "People screaming" is a process.