From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: ergonomic keybinding. Need qwerty testers. Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <0d1b5fbb-b1ac-4ba1-ad0f-1c1d762e319a@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220046047 6677 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 21:40:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:40:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 23:41:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZBit-0006gF-KT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:41:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBhu-0004mg-PH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:40:38 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 55 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1220044617 31530 127.0.0.1 (29 Aug 2008 21:16:57 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:161771 comp.emacs:97032 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57113 Archived-At: The erognomic keybinding has a new version. http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html A visual image for old and new layout can be seen at: http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding_change.html Description of the main changes: =E2=80=A2 Added delete-backward-char, delete-char, delete-backward-word, delete-word commands. =E2=80=A2 The undo, cut, copy, paste, positions has been moved. Since i don't use qwerty, i'm looking for feedback on qwerty users. (i.e. in case i had some elisp code errors, or any issues that might come up) ------------------ The reason for these changes is that recently Stefan Guath pointed out =E2=80=9Creal-last-command=E2=80=9D can be used to fix the problem with =E2= =80=9Cthis-command=E2=80=9D that is used in command-frequency.el. (this-command lumps several kill commands all into just kill-region, so frequency distribution for individual kill commands are lost) With this change, command frequent stat shows that the commands to delete previous/next char/word very frequently used, 10 times more than say, undo, kill line, or copy and cut. So, now these have prominent positions. Here's a rough stat of the commands that changed position due to the new finding: cmd name frequency of use ------------------------------------- copy 174 cut less than copy paste (yank) 1691 undo 524 backward-kill-word 2303 kill-word 1074 kill-line 155 delete-backward-char 6558 delete-char 996 For full detail of command frequency and the elisp code, see http://xahlee.org/emacs/command-frequency.html Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84