From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>, 16038@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 07:14:37 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d097edc-fcc0-4e64-81af-f55c11c79226@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52E616F6.7090804@gmx.at>
> >>> And just what problem is that? You say there is a problem to
> >>> fix in my code. What is the problem?
> >>
> >> The one from
> >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8368#32.
> >
> > That demo example was not from my code, as you know. It
> > demonstrates bug #8368, showing why it needs to be fixed.
> > And it is still pertinent, AFAIK.
>
> So this example bears no resemblance to code you ever wrote or run?
> It's just a hoax to attract the attention of developers to how
> people could shoot themselves in the foot? Now I understand why
> no-one else cared. This taught me a lesson ...
What are you on about, Martin? That example underlines, in a
simple way, the mismatch between `with-output-to-temp-buffer', which
is only for help buffers, and "with output to a temporary buffer",
which its name suggests. That's all. It is entirely germain to
the bug.
It is a trivial, minimal example pointing out some of the problems
described in the bug report:
(defun foo () "..."
(with-output-to-temp-buffer "*TEMP*" (princ "FOOO\n---\n\n")))
(foo) C-x b *TEMP* TAB
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "No buttons!")
And no, I do not use `with-output-to-temp-buffer' that way in my
code. I know enough not to expect that it does what it says, and
to use it only for a help buffer.
That does not change the fact that the name is misleading and
that Emacs could benefit from a real "with output to a temporary
buffer", in addition to this misnamed macro, which is really
"with output to a help buffer".
It's not a hoax. It's a bug report. Whether no one besides me
cares is their choice. But I suspect that someone does care,
since you have gone to some trouble to write a new macro and
there is now some talk (even if you say it is not from you) in
favor of deprecating the name `with-output-to-temp-buffer'.
Wrt such a possible deprecation: let's do it right. That's all.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-27 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-03 14:34 bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless Leo Liu
2014-01-11 14:01 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-11 14:32 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-11 15:41 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-11 16:31 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-12 9:53 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-14 0:23 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-14 1:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 4:42 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-14 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 21:55 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 23:46 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22 2:14 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22 3:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-22 3:32 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-23 10:03 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-23 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-24 7:30 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-24 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-24 15:45 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-24 16:29 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25 9:21 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 16:34 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25 16:48 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25 18:25 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 20:19 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-26 11:24 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-26 17:52 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-27 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-27 15:14 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-01-22 3:07 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08 1:54 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08 2:04 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08 5:59 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08 13:57 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-08 22:24 ` Leo Liu
2014-07-10 7:20 ` Glenn Morris
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