From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: About Emacs Modernisation Project Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 23:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <0c458a00-cd66-4571-aa72-73e6da748de0@u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com> References: <143c6d28-4423-4e43-9fc5-c0fb3340043b@c11g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> <0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <8639x7x3jj.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291825799 12442 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 16:29:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 17:29:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQMts-0007Ky-1P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:29:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQMtr-0006hB-4z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:29:51 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.102.12.87 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1275458847 11889 127.0.0.1 (2 Jun 2010 06:07:27 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.102.12.87; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.375.55 Safari/533.4, gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178555 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75613 Archived-At: On May 31, 12:41=C2=A0pm, Alessandro Piras wrote: > > IMHO an alternative (but compatible ) eLISP-dialect simply allowing to > > swap parens and functionnames and to write "message(...)" instead of > > "(message...)" would increase the acceptance immidiately. > > Sounds Like M-expressions. It has been tried in the past in the Lisp worl= d, > without much success. Most programmers realize after few time the > sweetness of S-expressions and macros. I think it would just lead to a > small amount of M-expressions code that would be soon refactored as > S-expressions.. Not worth the effort I suspect. there are lisp languages with full M-expression and successful one at that. See the following articles for much detail and examples. =E2=80=A2 The Concepts and Confusions of Prefix, Infix, Postfix and Fully Nested Notations http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/notations.html =E2=80=A2 Fundamental Problems of Lisp http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/lisp_problems.html Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84