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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226923 Archived-At: Right. I've seen the explanation. It's like hell|o where | is the position of point, and cursor appears over the "o". When do we use point over cursor, and vice versa, in documentation? Drew Adams wrote: >> I've noticed usage of "the cursor" and "point" throughout manuals and >> doc-strings. In what context is one preferred over the other? > > Point is the buffer position of the cursor (aka text cursor). > > In the Emacs manual (`C-h r'), `i point' and `i cursor' > both take you to node `Point', which explains this. > -- Siraphob (Ben) Phipathananunth