From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "B. T. Raven" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Dvorak layout except when modifier key is pressed Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:45:29 -0600 Message-ID: <0KudnQIkqchLee7anZ2dnUVZ_tWtnZ2d@sysmatrix.net> References: <86prwu1zg1.fsf@eder.homelinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198780840 8017 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2007 18:40:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:40:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 27 19:40:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J7xf1-0006WK-9F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:40:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7xeg-0006eW-Cs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:40:30 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.sysmatrix.net!news.sysmatrix.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:45:57 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.45.140.27 Original-X-Trace: sv3-547pcHbt8ANYG5b/r+gUsHhFkFFFonWoo5sh0uW8PmcN1KoSycMCuLOBqIN+dDd8w6n32d4ad9YxiB1!f1ej0V/EQDGevnCICPzbBEnL/VVeRZGvzUkmTo8kyUP6qBRnJNb7HGB9sxrBLqe2qOXtjz7QdQM7!2gq2iWjePnRvKB8ZRjfs4mdDQNcUpQ== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@sysmatrix.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@sysmatrix.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.37 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:154923 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50347 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 26.12.2007 um 02:31 schrieb B. T. Raven: > >> I recently installed Fedora 8 but it has only the basic Linux >> functionality. I think there is something called "Developer Spin" >> (another DVD) that I need to get the Emacs files. > > No, no! Xmodmap is a basic utility of X11. If you haven't installed X11, > then of course you have only something basic before you. The developer > packages usually contain C header files and static libraries. Of course > you can count compiler packages to the developer packages. And sometimes > (I think with Fedora always) you also get the source code for the > packages, except they are third party drivers, for example for the > graphics adapter. > > Commonly X11 is started (and personalised) with the help of a little > script ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Templates for these files contain > invocations of xrdb (to load and set X resources), xset (to set the path > to X11 font repositories), and xmodmap, to correct the meaning of > keyboard keys, particularly to set modifier keys like shift, control, > alt, hyper, super, compose. And xmodmap allows you to swap left and > right mouse buttons, which the left hand might like when you used for > the pointing device. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Got Mole problems? > Call Avogadro 6.02 x 10^23 Thanks Rupert and Peter. I do have xmodmap on the Gnu-Linux (Gnulix or Glunix?) computer but I haven't been able to grok how it works. Keytweak was a breeze. One of the first things I did was to run xev and press different keys to get the correct key designations for xmodmap syntax. Most keypresses generated a short report on the event but "Sleep" put the screen and keyboard into a coma from which I could recover only by pulling the plug. Luckily the file system wasn't corrupted and it booted up again without a problem. Other episodes in the nightmare are 1) install without network support [ethernet card but no network] 2)DSP winmodem not recognized by GLnix [martian Linmodem tarball successfully unpacked and compiled with Make all and make install disappeared somewhere 3) Emacs 22.1 tarball tranferred from msw machine download on flash drive can be started from terminal but Gnome doesn't seem to know anything about it. ... etc. etc. Does any of you know what xmodmap expressions I can put in some file so that my two users (ec and su or sudo) can have the same keyboard with bottom row super, alt, ctl, space, ctl, alt, super, hyper? Are Mod1 thru Mod5 synonyms for these modifiers keys? More importantly, is this system level stuff off topic here? Ed