From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: License of the Emacs website (was: Re: First draft of the Emacs website) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:17:49 -0800 Message-ID: <0F2DCC88-583C-43D3-8CE7-7F8A324F10ED@gmail.com> References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> Reply-To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449206289 8481 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2015 05:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 05:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, emacs-devel To: Random832 Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 06:18:04 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4ikt-0003ex-0X for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 06:18:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4iks-00047m-8A for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:18:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35675) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4ikq-00046E-3h for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:18:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4iko-00020S-Tw for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:18:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d]:33036) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4ikk-0001zj-Di; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:17:54 -0500 Original-Received: by pfnn128 with SMTP id n128so20372451pfn.0; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:17:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=cxW9Ww0izJ73mYfOlmlXvt+JsJGi7bHVdJh+qZ1VKXg=; b=sESFUjSLEkyDUTCfucQuwD8ozxetrX1B8C1SoEshh7XKQ/tQ8W8zph22qcdr01TWQm lDLpFX7o/q/AG14VeqV6+hSAGcmlstKQ7C0VntBXziM+T77DWKWRp7/BDa6kSoJ3mDSd ZnTXqPHt6Q4JcNWkm/kQGbaRkhMB1qQuaLgCHscLkUI2pukXmvQz7f9N2YcYkeB0mXT6 /E3bgn/pSkTHOGwDIW10+NjxDiUKY41jRxJnmydWEglCoD12AhH/0N+9C/NEN2FUY1yF sbnyb46JzHhVnbqdFeOgpXI7SRYS3jMufc2v2cwY7CSv+v7fH8Ku/MjPAZV8srcEtFfl 1w2w== X-Received: by 10.98.0.195 with SMTP id 186mr18824250pfa.130.1449206273194; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:17:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.46] (97-126-85-34.tukw.qwest.net. [97.126.85.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w20sm13996415pfi.55.2015.12.03.21.17.51 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:17:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:41 gmane.emacs.devel:195846 Archived-At: Subject changed. > On 03 Dec 2015, at 19:57, Random832 wrote: >=20 > On 2015-12-02, Xue Fuqiao wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Random832 = wrote: >>> - "Verbatim" copying permission statement is non-free. >>=20 >> The standard copyright terms for GNU web pages is now the Creative >> Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 United States License. >=20 > That's also non-free. Why not the GFDL, or CC-BY-SA? >=20 > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html specifically = recommends > against this license. It's not clear why website text (or layout, etc) > is so different from documentation as to require different principles. That=E2=80=99s interesting, because http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.en.html says: The standard copyright terms for GNU web pages is now the Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 United States License. The web page you site also includes this: Works that express someone's opinion=E2=80=94memoirs, editorials, = and so on=E2=80=94serve a fundamentally different purpose than works for practical use like software and documentation. Because of this, we expect them to provide recipients with a different set of permissions: just the permission to copy and distribute the work verbatim. Richard Stallman discusses this frequently in his speeches. Because so many licenses meet these criteria, we cannot list them = all. If you are looking for one to use yourself, however, there are two that we recommend: * GNU Verbatim Copying License (#GNUVerbatim) This was the license = used throughout the GNU web site for many years. It is very simple, and especially well-suited to written works. * Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 license (a.k.a. CC = BY-ND) (#ccbynd) This is the license used throughout the GNU and FSF web sites. This license provides much the same permissions as our = verbatim copying license, but it's much more detailed. We particularly recommend it for audio and/or video works of opinion. Please be specific about which Creative Commons license is being used. This seems like a discussion for someplace other than the emacs-devel list, so I tried (perhaps crudely?) to redirect it to emacs-tangents. Thanks, ~Chad