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From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
To: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 01:03:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0F2D02E5-0CD7-4524-A4F2-338F22381A0D@Web.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3tzuskzqt.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>


Am 05.05.2007 um 00:09 schrieb Kim F. Storm:

>>                                 And it's an attitude that smells of
>> schism and forking, which many of us will not approve, because it
>> diminishes the already small group of active developers by spreading
>> their insufficient resources between several competing projects.
>
> So why don't we try to find ways to accomodate people like Lennart who
> really wants to contribute, but whose ideas are too radical to be the
> default behaviour?
>
> E.g. by supporting two installation options
>
> a) maximum cross-platform consistency
> b) maximum adaptation to current platform APIs.

For Mac OS X we have the X clients of GNU Emacsen 21.x (with or  
without GTK), 22.x (with or without GTK), and 23.0.0; we have also a  
few flavours of "Carbon Emacsen" – and we have the Cocoa or GNUstep/ 
OPENSTEP version of Emacs.app based on version 23.0.0.

I don't think it's a bad situation. Their developers have particular  
hobbies or preferences. If they were not allowed to change things  
they might be like me: not developing anything. But they do write and  
improve patches to add transparency to Emacs, or to open every buffer  
in its own frame, or to overcome the inability of GNU Emacs (and I  
mean the "official" and "stable" version here) to deal with Unicode.  
Or to enable Emacs to print non-US-ASCII and non-ISO 8859-1 characters.

IMO it would be fine if the "official" GNU Emacs site would point to  
sites providing "non-official" flavours of GNU Emacs, and these sites  
would document their changes and additions.

--
Greetings

   Pete

Upgraded:  Didn't work the first time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-04 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01 13:15 EmacsW32 invocation options Will
2007-05-01 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-01 20:31   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-01 20:39     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02  3:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-02  7:18       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 10:21         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 13:28           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 14:18             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 14:37               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 15:01                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 15:14                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 15:37                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 17:31                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 20:01                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 20:14                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 20:18                             ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.140.1178137499.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 20:23                               ` Hadron
2007-05-02 22:30                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 19:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-02 19:38                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 20:03                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]         ` <mailman.84.1178101677.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 11:58           ` Hadron
2007-05-02 14:00             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 14:30               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 14:46                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 15:03                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 15:30                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 15:41                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 19:57                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 20:16                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 20:23                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 20:46                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 19:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-02 20:01           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-02 20:07             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-03  9:43               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-03 10:51                 ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.169.1178189923.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03 14:41                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-03 22:31                     ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.199.1178231896.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03 22:50                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-04  0:09                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-04  8:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-04  8:32                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-04 17:42                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-04 18:00                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-04 22:09                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-05-04 23:03                     ` Peter Dyballa [this message]
2007-05-05  6:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-05  3:04                     ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.272.1178334669.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-05  6:09                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05  6:56                         ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.275.1178348602.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-05  7:08                           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05 10:19                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-05  6:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.262.1178316988.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-05  1:07                     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05  8:10                       ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-05  8:14                         ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05  8:52                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-06  7:26                           ` Brian Elmegaard
     [not found]             ` <mailman.137.1178136879.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 20:20               ` Hadron
2007-05-02 22:22                 ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.148.1178144974.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 22:38                   ` Hadron
2007-05-03  3:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.155.1178162677.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03  6:24               ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-03  8:15                 ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.163.1178180521.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03 22:13                   ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-04  8:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.216.1178267106.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-04 11:21                       ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-04 12:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.222.1178282726.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-05  8:03                           ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-04 12:18                       ` Hadron
2007-05-04 14:21                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-04 14:54                           ` Hadron
2007-05-04 15:00                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-04 18:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-04  7:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.212.1178264928.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-05  0:58                   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05  9:36                     ` David Reitter
2007-05-05 12:43                       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-05 11:18                     ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]       ` <mailman.78.1178090729.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 11:54         ` Hadron
2007-05-02 13:54           ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]           ` <mailman.95.1178114448.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 14:37             ` Hadron
2007-05-02 22:16               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 19:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.71.1178075223.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02  6:01       ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-02 13:52         ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]         ` <mailman.94.1178114380.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-02 14:35           ` Hadron
2007-05-02 22:15             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 17:38           ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-02 22:17             ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]             ` <mailman.147.1178144675.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03  6:25               ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-03  8:20                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-02 19:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-02 19:49           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-03  3:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-03  8:26               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-04  7:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.128.1178133511.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03  6:08           ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-04  7:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-03  6:33           ` Brian Elmegaard
2007-05-03 10:02             ` Hadron
2007-05-03 11:02               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]               ` <mailman.170.1178190557.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03 11:36                 ` Hadron
2007-05-03 13:26                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-04  8:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-04  8:41                     ` Juanma Barranquero

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