From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 18:45:02 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <0ECC92DB-92BE-11D7-90E9-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: <200305301540.h4UFeeJ0022461@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054313517 1777 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 16:51:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 18:51:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ln59-0000OW-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 18:50:19 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LnKN-0007hX-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:06:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Ln6f-0004PN-JO for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ln6K-0003zN-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ln4d-0002cs-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:49:52 -0400 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([193.201.16.94]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Ln0b-0007Sg-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:45:37 -0400 Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44])h4UHZ9LC007598 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:35:09 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200305301540.h4UFeeJ0022461@rum.cs.yale.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14493 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14493 > Are you saying that consciously installed sendmail and set up > its config so that it does the wrong thing ? Just install any Linux distribution with some standard choice of packages, it will be included. There is not much point in wading through tons of install menus just to remove sendmail. > The default install of sendmail should not do what you describe, > because of its obvious tendency to behave as a blackhole. It does on all Linux and FreeBSD installations I've made. > PS: why have it installed if you don't use it and it doesn't work ? Se above. For example, selecting some configuration called "developer workstation" will install it. For Solaris it is always included. If I would go through the trouble to not install all commands that are not used, I would never get any installations done :-) Jan D.