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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287657 Archived-At: I=E2=80=99m not sure if this is the best list for this: I have an M1 Max (arm based / Apple Silicon) MacBook Pro with the latest = macOS of 12.3. I also have Homebrew installed with about 27 items = installed. I have not installed any libraries just to have the = libraries but have only installed commands. In any case, building emacs was the usual drop dead easy: ./configure; = make ; make install The one tiny hiccup is you need to do: sudo xattr -rds com.apple.quarantine Emacs.app to get the Emacs.app to launch. The GNU Emacs web site points users to = EmacsForMacOSX. EmacsForMacOSX has problems opening files in ~/Desktop, = ~/Downloads, and ~/Documents if the user is using Apple=E2=80=99s cloud = solution. My belief is that these problems come up because the = EmacsForMacOSX starts with a ruby script which eventually launches the = emacs binary. I believe macOS at that point no longer trusts the = executable =E2=80=94 which seems totally reasonable. Now=E2=80=A6 for my question: When emacs dies on a Mac (as with any application), a GUI window pops up = with a place to enter some text and a button that says =E2=80=9CReport=E2=80= =9D. When the button is hit, something sends something somewhere but I = doubt if anything is sent to the emacs-bug list. The window appears to = have some pretty useful information like stack trace for each thread, = etc. The flip side is, report-emacs-bug also has a lot of useful information. = My question is what is the preferred or most effective way to combine = these two sources of information? One choice is to copy what is in the = macOS window and paste it into the email that report-emacs-bug creates. = Another choice might be to attach a file that macOS creates when an = application dies but I don=E2=80=99t know where that file lives. Thank you for your time Perry