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charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Op 5/07/2017 om 20:20 schreef Nicolas Petton: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Couple of questions: >> >> 1) Does documenting this imply Emacs developers provide support for >> it? > I don't think so, and this is AFAIK still in Beta. I think that if we're > going to add this documentation to the download page, we should mention > both. It is indeed not (yet) a finished product. For example, not all network tools are working. An overview I found; dated June '17: As of Creators Update, the following tools should work: * ping * dig * ifconfig * ip link * ip addr show * ifconfig * whois * nslookup * ip route * ip addr add/delete Not working: * nmap * tracepath * traceroute * traceroute6 Even so I believe it's always a good idea to offer a broad range of possibilities to get to know free software and the principles behind them. regards, Lorenzo --------------7A91034B46ECA81F38C816AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



Op 5/07/2017 om 20:20 schreef Nicolas Petton:
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

Couple of questions:

1) Does documenting this imply Emacs developers provide support for
it?
I don't think so, and this is AFAIK still in Beta. I think that if we're
going to add this documentation to the download page, we should mention
both.
It is indeed not (yet) a finished product.

For example, not all network tools are working. An overview I found; dated June '17:

As of Creators Update, the following tools should work:

  • ping
  • dig
  • ifconfig
  • ip link
  • ip addr show
  • ifconfig
  • whois
  • nslookup
  • ip route
  • ip addr add/delete

Not working:

  • nmap
  • tracepath
  • traceroute
  • traceroute6

Even so I believe it's always a good idea to offer a broad range of possibilities to get to know free software and the principles behind them.

 regards,

Lorenzo


  


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