From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Recent commit modifying mark-whole-buffer (master/aeb613ea95b7970e66d663ec5cba54e9ec0528fa) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0943fde5-ec4e-40f5-85da-6cfe258f0513@default> References: < <87lh3x4dkb.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpngx69z.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87fuu4bo3y.fsf@gnus.org> <83inz0wprx.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87shy4a8d4.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuu4wnmm.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87y47w5w0p.fsf@gnus.org>> <<83bn4swdif.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461958231 17506 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2016 19:30:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com To: Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 29 21:30:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awE7C-0000LS-Rb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:30:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awE75-0001ht-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43903) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awE6m-0001S9-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:29:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awE6b-0004V1-87 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:20919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awE6Q-00044E-3d; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3TJSj1w031468 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:28:46 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TJSjnm013123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:28:45 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TJSgLN021410; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:28:43 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83bn4swdif.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203424 Archived-At: > I'm saying that what we do now is okay, and shouldn't be "improved". I agree (with Eli). I don't see a bug here, and everything suggested so far does not sound like an improvement. FWIW, if we are envisaging changing the prompt implementation then I think the prompt should be more amenable to Lisp (not done in C), and that any prompt features (including text properties, including `face' and read-only) should be default behavior only. At least a start would be to allow code to provide a propertized prompt (esp. wrt `face') and have that be used/respected and not overwridden.