From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: renato.pontefice@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to handle rtf Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <091f7037-8acb-4253-9b65-7761d47badfa@googlegroups.com> References: <4edddfc4-a498-41de-810f-a8f9c8514653@googlegroups.com> <87ha205czm.fsf@debian.uxu> <81e60be0-a23f-4f18-9505-8b861f55bbf8@googlegroups.com> <87tx5ytu21.fsf@debian.uxu> <02986f99-bb2d-4ef9-b07d-eb61f478f9a3@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406813202 1151 80.91.229.3 (31 Jul 2014 13:26:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:26:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 15:26:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XCqNQ-0005Sr-Fm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:26:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56695 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCqNP-0008Lm-VA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:26:36 -0400 X-Received: by 10.42.46.16 with SMTP id i16mr13028277icf.21.1406812540834; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.89.232 with SMTP id v95mr1474qgd.34.1406812540692; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!h18no7051505igc.0!news-out.google.com!px9ni176igc.0!nntp.google.com!h18no11294785igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <02986f99-bb2d-4ef9-b07d-eb61f478f9a3@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=5.99.98.253; posting-account=u2YPPQoAAAD4EIiLgz2UEPmFMncWw22R Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 5.99.98.253 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:15:40 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206747 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99021 Archived-At: Il giorno gioved=EC 31 luglio 2014 12:30:02 UTC+2, Rusi ha scritto: > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:33:26 PM UTC+5:30, renato wrote: >=20 > > I try to explain, why do I do I need to use .rtf, and why do I'd like t= o do with emacs: >=20 > > In the company where I work, I have to open rtf files, insert some text= (plain text), save it, upload on a server, that will elaborate that file, = replace the text tha I've inserted (that is a a variable name) with the co= ntent of the variable. >=20 > > The prob to use MS Word or LO, is that, when I open this file with this= program, the insert some rtf code, that let the server app not to process = the replacement. (i.e., my program look for [**VARIABLE_NAME**] and replace= s it with the real content of the variable), but, when I save from MS or LO= , my variable will be corrupted (i.e., is no more [**VARIABLE_NAME**-], but= ... [**VAR(\hich\af1\dbch\af37\loch\f1_IABLE_NAME**]) >=20 > > of course, in this way, my parser, will not recognize the variable name= . >=20 >=20 >=20 > > So, my prob is to try to edit this rtf in the more plain text as possib= le. But, not be confused, with the .rtf code. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > This is why, I'm lookin for sothings that let me edit .rtf in emacs, bu= t with sothings that let me read without the rtf code. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Have I been more clear? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Yes >=20 >=20 >=20 > You need to clarify one important thing: How much of the 'r' in the 'rtf' >=20 > (aka the formatting) you really need. >=20 >=20 >=20 > It appears from your description to be very little or none at all. >=20 > In which case saving (from MSO or LO) as (plain not rich) text and workin= g with >=20 > that would be the natural way. After that munging that text-file in emac= s or >=20 > python or ... is a different question. >=20 >=20 >=20 > If however you *do* need the formatting one way that comes to mind offhan= d is: >=20 > Use org mode and the odt exporter. >=20 >=20 >=20 > In general, rtf is nominally text with 'richness' ie formatting. >=20 > However the formatting is WAY WAY too much for you to be able to do norma= l >=20 > text processing on it and maintain your sanity I need many 'r'... the doc, are normaly .doc text. Imean: - formatting (text, tab, margin...etc) - fonts -etc. I need to format in .rtf, because: - it is well formatted text - are plain text - the parser can find e subsiuite variable I cannot use other format, because the server side application, already use= this format (because, is text format, and can also support formatting). So you tell me to look at org-mode? wich package can I use in org mode? TIA Renato