From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: artist-mode/aa2u Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <082ef9f0-91a7-4c17-98b2-62f35f2f37e9@googlegroups.com> References: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761kw58n4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <37293ee1-d9de-43d8-8a4e-ce1929bc2b1d@googlegroups.com> <871tvj9fsf.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87bnulsvt2.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401039024 4623 80.91.229.3 (25 May 2014 17:30:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 17:30:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 25 19:30:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WocFV-0007IM-HC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 May 2014 19:30:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WocFV-0002rZ-2L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 May 2014 13:30:17 -0400 X-Received: by 10.66.162.38 with SMTP id xx6mr601783pab.46.1401038911827; Sun, 25 May 2014 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.6.103 with SMTP id z7mr361557igz.11.1401038911717; Sun, 25 May 2014 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!c1no16780714igq.0!news-out.google.com!qf4ni12358igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl10no5392768igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <87bnulsvt2.fsf@debian.uxu> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.12.177; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.12.177 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 17:28:31 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205582 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97852 Archived-At: On Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:21:02 PM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Rusi writes: >=20 >=20 > > So currently I am torn between: On the one hand > > xelatex does not work, classic latex works On the > > other this is freakin 2014 do we still stay in 1980 > > and write \alpha \beta \gamma \delta ... \omega and > > \sum and \forall when we can directly write =CE=B1 =CE=B2 =CE=B3 =CE=B4= =E2=80=A6 > > =CF=89 =E2=88=91 =E2=88=80 ?? >=20 >=20 > I think \alpha is better. I can't see those other chars > for starters and I'd like to be sure everyone see what > I write. Yes=E2=80=A6 not seeing *is* a problem. We are in times of transition... > Also, how did you insert them? ("\alpha" takes zero time to type.) Inserting =CE=B1 is identical to inserting \alpha =E2=80=93 just use tex in= put method in emacs Of course in the long run even this is way too much. I need one keystroke to type an 'a' 1=C2=BD (that is 1-and-a-half if you ca= nt see it) to type a 'A' =E2=80=94 a shift+A chord. I would expect all standard heavi= ly used keys to be upto 3-4 keystrokes away. eg the half above is 3 keys: Compose+1+2. [Ive set compose to the Windows-menu key] So I can get =CE=B1=CE=B2=CF=88=CE=B4=CE=B5=CF=86=CE=B3=CE=B7=CE=B9=CE=BE=CE=BA=CE=BB=CE= =BC=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=80;=CF=81=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B8=CF=89=CF=82=CF=87=CF=85=CE= =B6 by typing abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz=20 if Ive setup my keyboard to switch between greek and us, thus $ setxkbmap -option "grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" -layou= t "us,gr" Since I am not primarily interested in greek, I of course dont do this