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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309014 Archived-At: > On Aug 20, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >=20 > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > Would someone please explain to me what expreg does? I am not against > adding it -- if it meets the criteria and people like it, why not? -- > but I'd like to know what feature we are adding. It=E2=80=99s similar to expand-region, where repeatedly pressing a key = expands the active region to enclose larger and larger constructs, = words, statements, defuns, etc. I guess the selling point is that it=E2=80= =99s simpler to configure and supports tree-sitter=E2=80=94weak = justifications, but people liked it and requested to have it on ELPA, so = I happily followed suit. >=20 > However, to "add something to ELPA" is not a coherent proposal, > because you need to specify WHICH branch or ELPA. GNU ELPA and NonGNU > ELPA have different rules -- we need to know which one we > are considering. I=E2=80=99ve always thought of GNU ELPA as the =E2=80=9Cdefault=E2=80=9D = ELPA, so this is intended for GNU ELPA. Yuan=