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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
Cc: 35887@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35887: 26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 07:32:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07457c95-138b-4769-8e36-3482a9302e00@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmk5Pz9AJ5iGgLEQ2dbM-yDnD3khMeqeC4HUuB-cZF4wGw@mail.gmail.com>

> Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> writes:
> 
> > In recent Emacs global-eldoc-mode has been enabled by default.  This is
> > a very annoying mode that causes minibuffer hints of elisp doc strings
> > to be flashing by in the minibuffer as the point moves around in the
> > buffer.
> >
> > Please revert this.
> 
> This has now been the default since 26.1.  Users will have gotten used
> to it, and it has seen only few complaints.  It is easy enough to
> disable it for those that really don't like it.
> 
> I therefore propose to close this as wontfix.

+1 to DISable it by default, IOW revert to normal,
longstanding Emacs behavior.  There was no reason to
enable it by default.  It's easy enough to ENable.

Such things should be opt-in.  Heck, we still don't
even have `delete-selection-mode' on by default.
And it took _decades_ to get `transient-mark-mode'
on by default.  What's so special about this that
it was turned on by default?

Arguments of "has been the default since 26.1" and
"it has seen only few complaints" are pretty
shallow.  For Emacs, 26.1 is, as Bob said, a recent
release.  Until a few days ago 26.3 was the _current_
release.

Such overeagerness to change default Emacs behavior
should really be curbed.  Please add my +1 voice to
the "few complaints" about this kind of change.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-16 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-24 19:51 bug#35887: 26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying Bob Proulx
2019-05-24 20:47 ` npostavs
2019-05-24 21:35   ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-24 22:38     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-24 23:24       ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-25  2:21     ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-25  6:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-26 11:51         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-25  8:00     ` martin rudalics
2019-05-27 20:30       ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-27 22:31         ` Drew Adams
2019-05-28 15:54           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-06-04  8:21         ` martin rudalics
2019-06-04 13:30           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-05 21:06             ` Juri Linkov
2019-05-27  3:23 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-16 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-16 14:32   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-08-16 16:12     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-08-16 14:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 12:27     ` Stefan Kangas

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