From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:51 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <06fdac3c-a773-2c98-ade1-a1b7dd2d34ce@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83o9g2uhju.fsf@gnu.org> <20180705115826.73c1d95e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <878t6lom8g.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87pnzxn4kw.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531069502 6429 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2018 17:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:05:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 08 19:04:58 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fcD7K-0001Ug-0d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 19:04:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37643 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fcD9O-0006Ww-Sx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51761) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fcD9F-0006Wp-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fcD9C-0000yc-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:35082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fcD9C-0000y3-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 13:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D7A16060E; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id r47Pq89nG_S8; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CFC1605B0; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id DN3j8cgD9pta; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.154.30.119]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7E1D160653; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEyAcmQBEADAAyH2xoTu7ppG5D3a8FMZEon74dCvc4+q1XA2J2tBy2pwaTqfhpxxdGA9 Jj50UJ3PD4bSUEgN8tLZ0san47l5XTAFLi2456ciSl5m8sKaHlGdt9XmAAtmXqeZVIYX/UFS 96fDzf4xhEmm/y7LbYEPQdUdxu47xA5KhTYp5bltF3WYDz1Ygd7gx07Auwp7iw7eNvnoDTAl KAl8KYDZzbDNCQGEbpY3efZIvPdeI+FWQN4W+kghy+P6au6PrIIhYraeua7XDdb2LS1en3Ss mE3QjqfRqI/A2ue8JMwsvXe/WK38Ezs6x74iTaqI3AFH6ilAhDqpMnd/msSESNFt76DiO1ZK QMr9amVPknjfPmJISqdhgB1DlEdw34sROf6V8mZw0xfqT6PKE46LcFefzs0kbg4GORf8vjG2 Sf1tk5eU8MBiyN/bZ03bKNjNYMpODDQQwuP84kYLkX2wBxxMAhBxwbDVZudzxDZJ1C2VXujC OJVxq2kljBM9ETYuUGqd75AW2LXrLw6+MuIsHFAYAgRr7+KcwDgBAfwhPBYX34nSSiHlmLC+ KaHLeCLF5ZI2vKm3HEeCTtlOg7xZEONgwzL+fdKo+D6SoC8RRxJKs8a3sVfI4t6CnrQzvJbB n6gxdgCu5i29J1QCYrCYvql2UyFPAK+do99/1jOXT4m2836j1wARAQABzSBQYXVsIEVnZ2Vy dCA8ZWdnZXJ0QGNzLnVjbGEuZWR1PsLBfgQTAQIAKAUCTIByZAIbAwUJEswDAAYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECH In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227115 Archived-At: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong wrote: > If you are thinking about renaming the "Default" tag in > `gnutls-min-prime-bits` 's defcustom, don't. I will start doubting > whether you are doing this under good faith There's no need to be using ad hominem language like that. Assume that we are miscommunicating, as this is the obvious and most likely explanation for the behavior you're observing. Indulging in attacks will make your efforts less likely to succeed.