From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jens Schmidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Keep network security info buffers after use Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2023 11:46:51 +0100 Message-ID: <06c025f5-741b-49f1-9b99-7ab4de05dfea@vodafonemail.de> References: <87plz4irev.fsf@red-bean.com> <83frzufo9x.fsf@gnu.org> <837cl5fkye.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18309"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 23 11:48:00 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rGzY0-0004Xd-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 11:48:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rGzXK-0002HY-9f; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 05:47:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rGzXH-0002HM-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 05:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mr4.vodafonemail.de ([145.253.228.164]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rGzXD-00057Y-Pj; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 05:47:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vodafonemail.de; s=vfde-mb-mr2-23sep; t=1703328428; bh=AubnFixkgGReci6UEnWYiO0iuUWdYFZXFAyeS7tZizM=; h=Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:Subject:To:References:From: Content-Language:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:From; b=JHtt21SFIK77lCtqHZ2bOGlvNL5dP9b+SIISvOoTBWLwgCPzg2p/nP9+C8VD70qUQ +NiP8dZAnIgsAdr0PwLB5yXM5JPO4UPqZZiQitwC8V4kcsXavtBpjIEIqqXvHwndnA k/cePaq1R9qHgkrcz9cbnSkHdMTujT0oKoqEUPC8= Original-Received: from smtp.vodafone.de (unknown [10.0.0.2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mr4.vodafonemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Sy17w2Thhz20xh; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 10:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from [192.168.178.41] (port-92-196-52-127.dynamic.as20676.net [92.196.52.127]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.vodafone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Sy17f51Wdz9scF; Sat, 23 Dec 2023 10:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Content-Language: de-DE-frami, en-US In-Reply-To: <837cl5fkye.fsf@gnu.org> X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate: clean X-purgate-size: 1229 X-purgate-ID: 155817::1703328424-6F25F42C-01472C99/0/0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=145.253.228.164; envelope-from=jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de; helo=mr4.vodafonemail.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314100 Archived-At: On 2023-12-23 08:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 22:58:38 +0100 >> Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Jens Schmidt >> >>> I agree that it could be useful in some cases. Andreas suggested a >>> special command to show this information -- do you think this would be >>> a good solution for this situation? >> >> I share Karl's opinion here that this could be too complex for the >> problem at hand. > > Seriously? how is it more complex than what you propose below? With my (possibly limited) imagination I cannot see from where you would get that information that you would like to display *after* the fetch/logon/connection attempt has completed. Other than by storing it unconditionally in some temporary or log-like buffer, which I understand is also off-limits to you. > P.S. I really don't understand this insistence on the original idea > that I said was unacceptable to me, where two acceptable alternatives > were already suggested. Why not take one of those alternatives? why > keep pushing in the direction to which I said I object? My patch does not touch rmc.el, and I thought *that* was your main/only concern.