From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adrian Robert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NS: ns-expand-space / slider in Preferences dialog not functional Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:41:59 +0200 Message-ID: <06CD0A2A-6B89-4E1A-BBA6-E91F03A289DD@gmail.com> References: <21F51971-5679-45BF-85A0-D982CA73E722@gmail.com> <5393D476-3312-4DF3-AF39-6D698B7FDA49@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236534297 15461 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2009 17:44:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , Emacs-Devel devel To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 08 18:46:14 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LgN4n-0002fh-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:46:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LgN3S-0001bE-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LgN0K-00074l-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:41:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LgN0J-00073k-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51022 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LgN0I-00073V-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f179.google.com ([209.85.219.179]:64642) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LgN0I-0000C5-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so749452ewy.42 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ulNurIWDSmfrRloyj/ualNoRM3r6da42zeXPNEuO+Os=; b=LbsjLfEulsZG+38mqrJpRSZwHlQQDK/Ve/gwsCB+43P1p49hTtForpNNDY7rfzdQWG 2qD8/M8uxOjron2dRYAa+Yn1Z91uO+DKimadwzwvdliZ3qQDZKkRRWAqgEnYSqoHEXv8 1y1yIr10r1GhbY9MjZS0ChYgTxkg8EgtMNCx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=frpKADaRc5zomZmo7lWuP4HiPdX+EeJoiQxqZerUmSQ95FtgCHv9OirlXs8ljLNN9Z uTKT+meE2XWuntq919MYufQ/CF4ygrQ/GWphneZJEcDx9IbuJQKe/HzGYsV8wg3wPUdo RCv7f2ThLiOuPpKpbOiCTFq92er8qB4ud+//U= Original-Received: by 10.210.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr2931829ebb.11.1236534092777; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?93.106.60.225? (gprs-prointernet-ff3c6a00-225.dhcp.inet.fi [93.106.60.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm6026553nfh.5.2009.03.08.10.41.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109513 Archived-At: On Mar 8, 2009, at 3:17 AM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:28:28 +0200, Adrian Robert >>>>>> said: > >>> If shrinking is useful, that should be added in a >>> platform-independent manner rather than introducing >>> platform-specific variable. > >> I find it nice for viewing more lines of code in a window in some >> fonts that seem to space fairly generously. If others like it, >> perhaps it could be considered for a future version of emacs, using >> the existing line-spacing impl as a starting point. > > So, you agree that extending line-spacing is the right direction and > to remove ns-expand-space now? Otherwise it conflicts/duplicates with > line-spacing with respect to expansion even now. I feel the bug with support for line-spacing under NS should be fixed ASAP, and that eventually, after 23.1, if people try the ns-expand- space feature under NS and end up liking it / wishing it was present on other platforms, line-spacing might be extended and expand-space removed. I don't see a benefit to removing the latter right now during pretest, and it would hurt existing users as well as the opportunity for others to try it out and judge whether it is a feature worth having in core emacs. There is no conflict with line-spacing -- the effects can be additive.