From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.orgmode,gmane.emacs.help Subject: [org] different key binding between GUI emacs and emacs -nw Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 21:29:38 +0900 Message-ID: <06B97E3A-230B-42FF-AAC9-A6EE2FEC9024@gmail.com> References: <3B861CE1-37F6-4310-B15C-6F1365B99E09@gmail.com> <8737bm7s7u.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9CB05951-815E-497C-9375-FA8F2A0C2150" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496147432 32344 195.159.176.226 (30 May 2017 12:30:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 12:30:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, emacs Original-X-From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 30 14:30:25 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dFgI5-0008Aj-9U for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 14:30:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53529 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFgI8-00030v-KP for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:30:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54356) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFgHR-0002zK-Tm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFgHO-00007S-Pm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:29:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]:36211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFgHO-00007M-HF; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id m17so71079892pfg.3; Tue, 30 May 2017 05:29:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=s1e0idUwfwp7Qilr51AbmK/w0DgOJEQFWQ+qeUyEEpk=; b=awd4qpWy0rMKY5Im9q7tUR3kgEVFCBTIbbvav4t69Nc9ecR6jCPsXpi59eDRLimbQ3 NBegHFROnvqO1Q8mskNFhFyIFiLlYc8K1hHdx7VCnUlbDdhOKHdbmX+gqJkHmjCt0Ksc fNHg5KNNX+cTQwXtSWwYonMC8WuAfCKc+TGjqH3lfo8hynovPtIVEkjfH4OCjoKSa2v2 3VB5PL8Ie0/KHVIYKFr8Z/diiLVPyAlHb7kSFuyH9J1DNDLN0zgR3GGE5LGYQiq3Seuf rbQwrj2Rqop8mVI4ykyGWK+nHVcu09nZLChm3Cp7hEYXXBhEbImPbyhJztZARDbmuAhF 5KKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=s1e0idUwfwp7Qilr51AbmK/w0DgOJEQFWQ+qeUyEEpk=; b=JGOjIE8yBWndhKtuQ/SngEBJnDk2cyxczMMPo+IlcdL2qE7bkEZGfhguiIFW1SrrcT zGq1w0/u6C0ASA5J4fpNFZNHSv3M0ZEnCbB5uu74Vn0OKHHcGroE8dukd3xOxian5rnQ erbygCsk59ovw62G/OZ+uGF22zHSE2Y6PDHDCS8+N85Iwk7UpJhQbCXBiStmrI4r2Tdz sUg4K55e/dc7mh7drQerwbQErpB0/NAgWAfMGe3ZUViCLmgZyWIeRYAOEn1ata4stvIw nLcZdxvj/P9sRgVpDNhJb9cbpc0FewpWSwCOek7IeKgLjAkOyYJMi7lIbY11ZwYelcQC 77DA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcD3PXbmC59oOHxsihPs+uymdxqC2WaakloNMW3TaD7wX195poIm NzRPlqE+06ZmgJriMWU= X-Received: by 10.84.218.204 with SMTP id g12mr83437341plm.32.1496147381425; Tue, 30 May 2017 05:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.63] (pl25298.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp. [133.232.153.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s18sm20995690pfi.16.2017.05.30.05.29.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 May 2017 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.orgmode:113727 gmane.emacs.help:113278 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_9CB05951-815E-497C-9375-FA8F2A0C2150 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On May 30, 2017, at 21:21, Tim Visher wrote: >=20 > Sometimes your Terminal application captures these 'extended' = bindings. It is the opposite that's happening. Terminal works fine. It is the GUI = that does not accept the bindings. And as I wrote, it is not limited to = my macOS (Emacs.app and Aquamacs show the same behavior) but to other = people's GTK+ linux or Xubuntu. So it seems that's something that aught = to be investigated and eventually fixed. > I've always just accepted that org mode keybindings differ between = terminal and gui. Except that I don't *have* most bindings in GUI. There is probably a = rational reason what that is happening. I'm fine with helping with the = investigation but I fear that's an area where I can't do much more than = that. Jean-Christophe >=20 > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary = > wrote: >=20 > > On May 30, 2017, at 15:51, Nicolas Goaziou > wrote: > > > >> = http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2017-05/msg00306.html = > >> > >> Let me know if you need extra information. > > > > What happens if you replace, e.g., > > > > (org-defkey org-mode-map [(meta left)] 'org-metaleft) > > > > with > > > > (org-defkey org-mode-map (kbd "M-") 'org-metaleft) > > > > in "org.el"? >=20 > Nothing changes. >=20 > Jean-Christophe >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9CB05951-815E-497C-9375-FA8F2A0C2150 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On May 30, 2017, at 21:21, Tim Visher <tim.visher@gmail.com> wrote:

Sometimes your Terminal application captures these 'extended' = bindings.

It is = the opposite that's happening. Terminal works fine. It is the GUI that = does not accept the bindings. And as I wrote, it is not limited to my = macOS (Emacs.app and Aquamacs show the same behavior) but to other = people's GTK+ linux or Xubuntu. So it seems that's something that aught = to be investigated and eventually fixed.

I've = always just accepted that org mode keybindings differ between terminal = and gui.

Except = that I don't *have* most bindings in GUI. There is probably a rational = reason what that is happening. I'm fine with helping with the = investigation but I fear that's an area where I can't do much more than = that.

Jean-Christophe


On Tue, = May 30, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 30, 2017, at 15:51, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
>
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2017-05/msg00306.html
>>
>> Let me know if you need extra information.
>
> What happens if you replace, e.g.,
>
>  (org-defkey org-mode-map [(meta left)]  = 'org-metaleft)
>
> with
>
>  (org-defkey org-mode-map (kbd "M-<left>")  = 'org-metaleft)
>
> in "org.el"?

Nothing changes.

Jean-Christophe



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