From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adam Porter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71370: 30.0.50; Please un-obsolete buffer-substring as a generalized variable Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:35:39 -0500 Message-ID: <068780bf-2a19-41de-92b2-222686e0fd9b@alphapapa.net> References: <86jzj3k3nd.fsf@gnu.org> <2dd5d406-3185-4484-8aa8-856e5d717d48@alphapapa.net> <868qzjjv1v.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26525"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: 71370@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 05 19:37:10 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sEuZS-0006dm-99 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alphapapa.net; s=dreamhost; t=1717608941; bh=bLu/u1BTIn6eZg0QRcAF+1tdkGS/RqVWAKfne+s9YUQ=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SNF6qRwsI/ikvjAmwBHpKAIi0OozPMV7a2H0pvQ1D6+jPo1SW0lGfro5L1reQDxbJ w+Bk578JpfhaQJx+XUJYxY+l0xN+xp2eBqrMthoOa7bJn9SmykTfRHafxgvMu6uNCL gwb2RkLEqzqz5gAmM9tAjCLKwowWhu0S8Mge3jMY1u5DibzBevN09UOEFXHpkpWBM9 p1q/8tTiXoqDlXumVw01Q4h89l3cplzsGz4+8F9fKi8i85VagCXy3bPs0tQkJJmrf6 pbmjaF04LcFgrteKnI6AY7JCe6L40SEzkcmnKeGRyd8QegHviiacTFxq46G+P4iXoy JNeSK3BfJc7Lw== Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <868qzjjv1v.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:286625 Archived-At: Hi Eli, On 6/5/24 09:58, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:16:53 -0500 >> Cc: 71370@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Adam Porter >> >>> I think it's too late to do this now, not without a very good >>> reason. Unless such a good reason emerges VSN, this will need to wait >>> till Emacs 31 at least. >> >> That would mean years more of unnecessary compilation warnings' annoying >> users when they install packages that use this form. > > Please also look at this from where I stand: if we keep adding > last-minute changes that no one tried for long enough time, we will > never start the Emacs 30 release cycle, because doing that with an > unstable master branch is a very bad idea, and delaying the branch is > the only way of knowing whether the master branch is okay after each > change. > > So I must draw the line in the sand at some point (pun intended), and > I just did, a few weeks ago. Of course, I would not argue with that. I thought that un-marking these forms as obsolete, and thereby removing the warnings, would merely be a reversion that would not constitute a change in functionality, i.e. it would not risk any breakage, so it would be a safe change to make at this point. If that is not the case, or not in your judgment, I won't argue with you; and I would ask that the change be made in the following version. Thanks, Adam