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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309280 Archived-At: On 26/08/2023 22:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 22:09:47 +0300 >> Cc:danny@dfreeman.email,stefankangas@gmail.com,philipk@posteo.net, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org,manuel.uberti@inventati.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> On 26/08/2023 22:05, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> Or the longevity stems from other reasons (e.g. good fundamental ideas, >>>> unique proposition, being part of the original GNU system, ...), and the >>>> development process is the reason the current user base is a fraction of >>>> even Vim's (not to mention popular commercial offerings). >>>> >>>> Just an alternative POV to consider. In truth, could be a little of both. >>> Mine wasn't a POV, it was an observation based on many years of >>> watching the development and being part of it. >> Are you talking about Emacs as a whole, or sub-packages inside it? > The former, of course. Then I don't see what your baseline is. I used Vim as an example (30 years old project, more popular these days, in part thanks to NeoVim).