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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b28sm6581408ljo.1.2020.05.03.14.38.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 May 2020 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4uy2q8ly7b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179628 Archived-At: > If you mean when the FSF produce a published version, only they > could add that date, and it would not be known at the time of the > associated Emacs release. If you mean when the associated Emacs was > released, then I don't see why that date should be added, but it > could eg be extracted from etc/HISTORY, with some small trouble. I thought that it'll be simpler, merely a question of whether to put it or not to put it. I'm guessing that release of docs depend on release of Emacs itself, but because I don't know anything about how you are releasing them, in it's difficult for me to define "release date". So, I would have to know the sequence of the release process to pick a good place in time, which, in my opinion of course, should be the release date. I'm guessing that on day N, Emacs is packaged (tar.gz) and uploaded to: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/ But then, is documentation (Info, PDF, HTML, sources package) also build on the same day and uploaded to: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html Or maybe documentation is uploaded few days after? And then do they (docs) stay the same until next Emacs release, or are they refreshed (corrected style, some minor errors/typos)? S. U.