From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: <05F27863C03E4DA8AB8682E40280D482@us.oracle.com> References: <87y5h2rhh2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355355139 13101 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2012 23:32:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13159@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 13 00:32:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tivmx-00061l-TA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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RET; q to quit; ? for help. > Making completion list... > Quit > Note: file is write protected > Using vacuous schema > > Do you want to fix all of them too? Without looking at the details, it sounds like all of them should be fixed. But this report is only about fixing messages wrt `find-file-noselect'. Do you disagree that it makes little sense to display messages when `find-file-noselect' is called from a non-interactive function? And that it is not too helpful to find a message in *Messages* telling you only that some (unnamed) file (perhaps in a dolist that handles 12358 files) was write-protected? The priority of fixing bugs is for Emacs Dev to decide. And this one has been around a very long time, so it is probably not the most important. But in any case, it is a bug, no?