From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2030: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-guess-shell-alist-user Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:21:38 -0700 Message-ID: <057DB3F3B113413AA463B2C0902C846C@us.oracle.com> References: <000c01c97e57$3c19ad20$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><86BC06476E904F86B9CB1A52BF6E714F@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310858546 30707 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2011 23:22:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2030@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 01:22:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBh-0007hJ-JO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:22:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36940 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBg-00074B-RZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBQ-00073z-LL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBP-00038L-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBP-00038C-KF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBO-00065L-CS; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 2030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2030.131085851923382 (code B ref 2030); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 23:21:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBK-000655-S3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiEBI-00064t-QQ for 2030@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6GNLmlL026488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:21:50 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6GNLmEX014195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:21:48 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6GNLgf3003393; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.38.176) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:21:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxD6D/fq+41bX+2QHyW0vjMotTXmgAJsRRQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4E221D0E.0070:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:22:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49291 Archived-At: > I disagree, and I'm closing this report. Then please change the status from `fixed' to `wontfix', Lars. You did not fix anything that was reported. And there were several points raised - all ignored. ("\\.bar\'" to "\\.bar\\'" had apparently already been corrected.) You even left the inappropriate uppercase for the fictitious command names. All you did AFAICT was change the calls to `list' to a quoted list constant - no relation to the bug report. Worse - part of the bug report was precisely that there is no sense in showing an example with `setq', especially if the value is a _constant_. There is no reason to show _setting_ the value - in any way. It is fine to show an example value though (provided it is cleaned up, as suggested), if it helps to understand the structure etc. But no reason to show how to set it. If for some reason (and there is none here) we did need to mention how to set this option's value, then general Emacs policy calls for privileging Customize in the doc. You not only insisted that the doc string show how to set the value (useless), but that it continue to do so using `setq' - not even `customize-set-variable'. The reason you gave was that users will want to copy+paste this `setq' expression. Hard to believe. It's your prerogative not to fix the bug, but in that case please change the status to `wontfix'. Thank you.