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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Glenn Morris'" <rgm@gnu.org>, "'Ulrich Mueller'" <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:22:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org>

> > (BTW, are there any plans to stop that abuse of the grave 
> > accent as an opening quotation mark in the rest of the
> > documentation?

I certainly hope not.  Quite misguided, IMO.

> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=10443
> It will be a hard habit to change.

It is not just a question of habit.  Having different characters for starting
and ending such text simplifies distinguishing that text (e.g. font-locking).

Which start and end chars are conventionally chosen for this is not nearly as
important as the fact that they be different.

The URL that Glenn cites gives this as the (only) rationale for changing:

  This proposed patch follows up on recent changes to the
  GNU coding standards.  They now suggest that we should
  quote 'like this' or "like this" instead of `like this'; see
  <http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Quote-Characters.html>.

Such a change to "the GNU coding standards" might or might not make sense for C
coding (that is the only context cited where "the GNU coding standards" have
been changed in this regard).

But it definitely does not make sense for Emacs, IMO.  `...' is an Emacs doc &
UI convention, not simply a "coding standard".







  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19  9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19  9:37   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02       ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  5:00           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-20  6:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41   ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-01-19 23:08       ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  3:02         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20  6:23           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  6:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  7:49         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20  8:45           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  8:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22  3:27                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  3:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:00                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06                       ` James Cloos
2012-01-21  9:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:18                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22  9:36                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24                         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 16:33                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23  7:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13             ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51                 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01           ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03             ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 22:34           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  1:13             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21  1:26               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  6:10                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21  8:37                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14   ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50     ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45       ` Eli Zaretskii

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