From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16813: 24.3.50; `package--initialized' Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:10:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0523e9fe-a6ce-4fc0-838f-b2707494d475@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392837082 5444 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2014 19:11:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) To: 16813@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 19 20:11:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCYH-0006ii-Rh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:11:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33232 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCYH-0006iw-DD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:11:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCY4-0006gR-Rn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXu-00030G-PN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXu-00030A-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXu-0005ic-2J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16813 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.139283704921960 (code B ref -1); Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2014 19:10:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXg-0005i7-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXd-0005hk-3K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXN-0002tL-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:40 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXN-0002tH-LS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCXE-0006Sc-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCX2-0002gb-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:20 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGCX2-0002dp-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1JJA6an019188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:10:07 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1JJA52E015963 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:10:05 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1JJA4dZ020862 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:10:05 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85904 Archived-At: ..should not be considered internal. Should be documented. It is reasonable to use this function in a check, before trying to use things from package.el. Look at `describe-package' for an example. There is no reason to assume that package.el is the only code that can make use of such a check. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-02-11 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 116410 lekktu@gmail.com-20140211204823-l9l2s6tktfitq266 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include'