From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:32:43 +0000 Message-ID: <0504AD19-94C2-4A1E-A288-54FFA04E8C77@gmail.com> References: <200511112049.jABKn9r23432@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <5CFC1BD0-4EE5-438E-AFC5-EC025E11450A@gmail.com> <200511112126.jABLQvM23506@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131748474 24190 80.91.229.2 (11 Nov 2005 22:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 23:34:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EahS4-0002t0-Og for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:32:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EahS4-00005O-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:32:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EahRw-00005F-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:32:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EahRu-000051-G9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:32:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EahRu-00004y-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.197] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EahRu-0007Rg-FJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so657625wra for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gBzpiKHYCwKajP0wrDCHrVRfDTUuZFkfb3trlwl2kYNcgPKMi8VwEHXZ+FDOkCYlBGG09yzTEaS0sf1weiKxhalQpU/I9XOvKvIH4nU1sPkZ56/53fTWKu6IW9CNMvxv7lGYP0HbV7Bi0wP+00wz+D6Wd4C7N56pxFd8BNGNZpw= Original-Received: by 10.64.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr3007062qbj; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.0.0.34? ( [82.13.31.46]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q14sm27492qbq.2005.11.11.14.32.44; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200511112126.jABLQvM23506@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Original-To: Luc Teirlinck X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45782 Archived-At: On 11 Nov 2005, at 21:26, Luc Teirlinck wrote: > > C-h i emacs m pages, but really, all you have to do is print off a > buffer containing ^L's once and you will notice. I'm afraid I lack the ingenuity to guess that I have to look for "pages" in order to find out that this unknown new character ^L has to do with pages. Some people are more visually oriented, some aren't. I suspect a metaphor like a dashed horizontal line visualized a page break won't hurt you. If you don't know what ^L is, then it will only distract you. And it won't provide visual guidance as to where groups start for either of us.