From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Daniel Colascione" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Aliasing EQ to EQL Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: <03af3e3ab2b22bf1a77aef94d659808d.squirrel@dancol.org> References: <5e08587a56ad528599ed5fb259be6335.squirrel@dancol.org> <83muw5vdtr.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhzvyqfy.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgbezs6q.fsf@gnu.org> <6b522145569975d52266e29e8122e86b.squirrel@dancol.org> <50a1e0f98f6cfc5e55fdc2b7df5000b5.squirrel@dancol.org> <49478aa579597ea6557a3976779a234a.squirrel@dancol.org> <1c706afb-47c7-a8a7-3d3c-d4c8ea95cf70@cs.ucla.edu> <1e7cc051e1478a9e8ac77647617a612f.squirrel@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529293610 32386 195.159.176.226 (18 Jun 2018 03:46:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 03:46:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stefan Monnier" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 18 05:46:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl7s-0008Ii-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:46:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl9x-0003o2-Vh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl9E-0003nK-Hz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl9D-0000aY-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:52364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl9D-0000aN-IL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; bh=5WgmvmIkc9Vg0NVO7wqz4/HeIDWIqNaQD5GAbvtErBQ=; b=DRYl4JwrXAerzp2QY8sD5k95ORC0Cs2DqZXqHkmOwhXS3IlP9VRKTX6S6tf7VAVIMBCrStJo2L5jt55/IVRX5O3VaxbKvPslol5cWs2iTCCJPbjGNiwnnT+ZGS5mt/IKMlPGPBjgQPQxP4H2FykVhppuCMbaTP70HR2jnJg0WeVzdyJbqMAaWCgfqTAHjilmsvkisQBD6sM+oF7Hr4PKJmkA6qHDWiHMkaVXerK/BbNX6vX6Xg0YhdvzntiP4pNBE/H7h4AD34uTsGAKxDxXOwkxJhnupF/OpbZtE6fUBLuyoZ9qu7eN6Zx+ozeCtTLXULYGSD9v6710TSWH2XfJzA==; Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dancol.org) by dancol.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUl9A-0002by-9l; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:48:04 -0700 Original-Received: from 127.0.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dancol) by dancol.org with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:48:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226445 Archived-At: >> For what? This aliasing has _zero_ real world benefit. > > The benefit (cleaner, simpler language) is marginal, indeed. > >> I maintain that this is a change we should absolutely not make. > > I have no intention to push this change. > But I think eventually we will make a change along those lines. Maybe once we have a JIT and can reasonably infer in the right context that in order to implement EQL-comparison, we need just check object identity.