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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 21594@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21594: 25.0.50; (elisp): node `Variable Definitions' is not reachable by `i variable definition'
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02aef894-7fda-4061-943e-24115490c85e@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83k1bwhepu.fsf@gnu.org>>

> A node's name is a label, and needs to satisfy
> several requirements, so it isn't always as
> accurate as the section name.

True enough.  And one of those requirements is
to be able to use `g' to get to it.  A node's
name is something that users see and use.  It's
not just an internal label.

> the assumption that someone might look up this
> node by its name, or be surprised that only
> defcustoms are described there, is misguided, IMO.

No one made such an assumption, if by "look up"
you mean only `i'.

The node name is important, and in this case
it's not good.

Use `i' and you get to the right node for
`variable definition'.  No problem there.

Use `g' with completion and you get to the
wrong node for the same input.

And you might use substring or multiple-pattern
completion, with input like `var' and `def',
and the result of completion will be `Variable 
Definitions', which you will naturally think
takes you to a node about that.

Completion shows you all matches for your input.
Scanning the candidates quickly is another way
to get to a node.  It's not about `g' instead
of `i'.  It's that `g' is also useful, and node
names should be helpful, not misleading.





       reply	other threads:[~2019-08-01 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <<87v9vgg0vv.fsf@mouse.gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<83k1bwhepu.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-08-01 20:07     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-08-02  6:46       ` bug#21594: 25.0.50; (elisp): node `Variable Definitions' is not reachable by `i variable definition' Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-02 11:25         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] <<<ae6720ed-ad9d-4110-9213-c8abdafa81e6@default>
     [not found] ` <<<87v9vgg0vv.fsf@mouse.gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<83k1bwhepu.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<02aef894-7fda-4061-943e-24115490c85e@default>
     [not found]       ` <<83d0hogj3i.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-08-02 15:21         ` Drew Adams
2015-09-30 21:46 Drew Adams
2019-08-01 19:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-01 19:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-01 19:57   ` Drew Adams
2019-08-03  2:19     ` Richard Stallman
2019-08-03  4:45       ` Drew Adams
2019-08-04  2:58         ` Richard Stallman

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