From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-line-move-visual: was line motion problem Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:53:57 -0400 Message-ID: <02F161D8-0202-4AAF-9A5E-7E281F8852D3@gmail.com> References: <18557.63556.231489.523637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <5F62534C-D5CE-4364-8F73-E1AE0D61B4E2@gmail.com> <87abghlqs2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87hcap3ct7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mykg84aj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200807181530.m6IFUHVp029662@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <06ED973A-F762-4586-9913-37B3622C8644@gmail.com> <48851632.5030302@ig.com.br> <873am2902l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <48853ED7.8040301@ig.com.br> <4AF32E83-4754-4672-B54B-EDDA88B7AD2A@gmail.com> <48868EFC.1050906@ig.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-13-103752363; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216781712 29468 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 02:55:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , raman@users.sourceforge.net, Dan Nicolaescu , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Vinicius Jose Latorre Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 04:55:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLUW6-0002FW-7P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:55:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53861 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLUVC-0000dm-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLUV6-0000cY-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLUV1-0000al-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60006 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLUV1-0000ai-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]:43554) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLUV0-0003MV-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so914893ywk.66 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=jNEFkQJ2fKkXADOMSuA8cNg0t26bp2cff04eN8V65v0=; b=WtlpJOh78/oTd1I7b4fv/ciyitEmfpRfKzT3MkzaAAqtaWYlc1C1t4ojERfF9PTWjX PaQB42NDXXwCN/VlXZbE13Vjg7SGd5ChDmTxSlqPWUCVxiFaeTVee/+07k4Gw7jtfJd2 oA9UCsS3lb9tdKaAFZeNEqYAwoqW0jMVmzvBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=Snkc2Ylh12wQ8ODoSpC+XPt1L6s+LTfuRoDjvcJd96H/BHcF56/kRGNM9RB2kdyMeq BvUEJdiQQy152Zh32z3hdb5BW3soFmvMOnJm5cQk07e0SobIgfsrYjTSGHPEqnzvN5aY 5gLYMQNc5jAMM6NDKQII3Nmo5TyYLBJvO2ZEo= Original-Received: by 10.150.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr6465430ybc.40.1216781677842; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?172.19.190.95? ( [204.94.250.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm2745147yxr.3.2008.07.22.19.53.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <48868EFC.1050906@ig.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101272 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-13-103752363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 22 Jul 2008, at 21:53, Vinicius Jose Latorre wrote: >> >> I would still want the pilcrow to be used by default and the more >> (s/t)ame colors for the face. >> But that may well be the default for whitespace in general. > > Well, you can change the whitespace-newline and whitespace-display- > mappings settings in your ~/.emacs file. ... so we don't have to set sensible defaults? > BTW, I also prefer the pilcrow. The default has to be sensible, and this is quite possibly different for the full-blown whitespace-mode and for this show-newlines-mode. 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